11-01-2014, 06:22 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-01-2014, 07:04 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
Nick Rose Wrote:I agree with Peter that we should bring this discussion back on track.
I also agree that the above suggestions about providing a Forum Liaison for new members, is restrictive, offensive, and rather absurd.
In addition, I thought that sense there has been an absolute lack of good faith in following the forum guidelines, and apparently little or no admonishment from the moderators for such, that it would be appropriate to post the following rule from your own forum stick regarding etiquette:
14. Our fundamental objective is for DPF to be an arena where research can be seriously discussed, and thoroughly refuted if appropriate, without name-calling or member abuse. It is acceptable to be robust and even dismissive of the arguments of other members, if analysis and evidence are provided. It is acceptable to state that a particular argument serves the agenda of the powerful, again if analysis and evidence are provided. However, since DPF is primarily intended as an arena where serious informed research can be developed and debated, it is not acceptable to describe another member as, for instance, an agent provocateur.
I kindly ask that the offending members review the above guideline.
I further ask that the moderators make good on their etiquette sticky and remove and move the offending language off to the Bear Trap (?) and that would include my offensive reply, of course.
I don't see how there can be order or even proper discussion in this forum, if the forum leaders and existing members do not adhere to their own guidelines.
Thankyou.
To me, the above makes you more suspect rather than less. You are a new guest here and you act like you want to RUN and discipline the place to your own prescription. I strongly suggest that you make your points on substance, only. Trying to push the 'rules' and rub our noses in it is not going to make any friends and lots of animosity; more and more that seems what you might have come here for. If you don't like it here, the door is on your mouse. Lastly, I'd point out that while LOOKING LIKE you were agreeing with me, you did the OPPOSITE - or you would have posted substantive things here and any grips on a new thread....instead you continued the disruption/sidetracking of the thread UNDER THE GUISE of agreeing that it shouldn't be....and forced me to follow suit. I suggest that this thread and Mr. Rose be monitored closely by a moderator. I think at this point it is Mr. Rose's 'etiquette' and HUBRIS here that is in question, rather than that of those who have been here for years.
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass