14-01-2014, 03:55 PM
Nick Rose Wrote:Albert Doyle Wrote:Liebler coercing a pressured witness and suborning perjury (at the very end):
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimo...ald_m2.htm
What was the supposed significance of Mrs. Whitworth's allegation that Marina was at the furniture mart, anyhow?
Per Mrs. Paine herself:
"7. On none of the above occasions did we shop in or visit or enter any furniture store. This includes the Furniture Mart, a store that was located at 149 East Irving Boulevard, Irving, Texas, which I now understand was owned and operated during its existence by one Edith Whitworth.8. There were only two occasions during all the period in the Fall of 1963 that I took Marina and Lee together in my station wagon to Dallas, Texas, or anywhere in Irving, Texas. One occasion was a trip to Dallas, Texas, the morning of November 9, 1963, which I have mentioned above. (The other is described in paragraph 14.) I do not know Mrs. Whitworth. I never visited her place of business, nor did I ever drive Lee Oswald or Marina to that place of business; and, to the best of my knowledge and recollection, Marina was never at or in that place of business with or without Lee Oswald during the period she resided in my home in the Fall of 1963."
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/paine_r5.htm (affidavit of RH Paine)
Where were they trying to go with this line of questioning?
Also,
on a side note ... I have seen numerous allegations here and elsewhere that the Paine's were intelligence assets.
However, if that was the case, I keep coming across statements by Mrs. Paine that are strongly in support of Oswald,
and that contradict the questioning of the authorities in ways that lend defense to Oswald, some times even a the expense of casting doubt on his wife -- one strong example the supposed rifle in the garage that Marina claims to have seen, Mrs. Paine testifies outright, "I don't remember it being that easy to see. Exposed like that. I remember it being wrapped pretty well" (i mean that is pretty damning of Marina, and *supports* LHO, not throw him under the bus). [btw, Paine quote there a rough paraphrase]
If you don't see the Paine's as CIA/intelligence babysitters and set-up folks for the Oswald's, you're either very new to this or misinformed. Michael Paine's boss at Bell Helicopter was Dornberger, who was von Braun's boss and underling of Kammler in Nazi Germany - came here under Paperclip; Ruth Paine has relations that were intelligence related and their actions and non-actions throughout the time they knew the Oswalds are totally suspect [I'm not going to go into all this..it is out there in many places]. After that mission, Ruth did CIA work in Nicaragua. Both IMO 100% CIA. Not to mention that Ruth did the final act of emplacing Lee in the pre-planned position for the patsy in the TSBD job. She's a good liar and of course plays the innocent non-intelligence person...don't they all. Paine's father had been employed by the Agency for International Development, regarded by many as a source of cover for the C.I.A. Her brother-in-law was employed by the same agency in the Washington, D.C. area. Garrison tried to examine the income tax returns of Ruth and Michael Paine, but I was told that they had been classified as secret.... :hock::
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