Opinions on Roscoe White story?

[David Josephs]

One again wonders how a photo was taken of the same exact pose for Oswlad yet that pose was not unearthed for years... why are none of the "poses" the same as the found photographs since they were the only things the DPD/FBI had to use... HOW did they match the 133-C pose exactly if they did not know it existed?

What are you referring to here?
Can you walk me through this slowly?
When you say "a photo was taken *of the same exact pose for Oswald*" what are you referring to. What pose "was not unearthed for years"? What "found photographs"?

I'm sorry to be daft. I want to follow along but I am having trouble. Match the 133-c pose to WHAT?
if you could provide images or source links with each reference you make, it may allay some of my confusion.

thank you david!

I will further add to your comments regarding the empty backyard photo:
1. two reasons it may have been more feasible (and contrary to first thought, arguably easier) to insert the entire body onto a pre-existing blank backyard photo
a. perpetrators may not have had unfettered access to the backyard or wanted to risk being seen (makes sense, no?)
b. perpetrators may have needed the body image taken against a white background to seemlessly-as-possible insert Oswald's head on top of it
2. with reference to the white background in 1-b.
it is possible that the white sliver between the fence is either an accidental portion of this white background left uncut from around the man's body,
or if we are arguing a higher level of sophistication and lack of error, it could have a been a "control point" left for insertion in to the background photo.
That white sliver hangs conveniently off of some sort of black appendage on the leg (could just look that way) and could have been used to precisely place the model. In otherwords, having cut out the body leaving that little white sliver exactly between the fence (having had the man's body overlaid on top of the background image while working with it, you know on one of those lightboards, where you place one image under glass?) the perpetrator could then take the body of the man along with that little white sliver left attached and position that little sliver right back in between the fence to create the composite. (just a bad guess here)

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Sorry Nick...

Rose and Stovall find and submit as evidence 2 photos and 2 Negatives found at the Paines on 11/23.
ONE of the negatives disappears while years later the HSCA uncovers 133-C

(366) The Photographic Evidence Panelexamined Warren Commission exhibits CE 133-A and 133-B, the twobackyard pictures seized from the Oswald residence byDallas Police in 1963 ; CE 749, the
original negative to CE 133-B, and CE134, an enlargement of CE133-A.**

In addition to these Warren Commission exhibits, the Panel analyzedthe four photographs recently discovered by the committee

(367) (1) A photograph designated as133A-de Mohrenschildt recovered from the estate of the late George deMohrenschildt ; (155)

(368) (2) A photograph designated as 133C-Deer, obtained from theDees' (Roscoe White) widow ; (156)

(369) (3) Photographs designated as133A-Stovall and 133-C Stovall, obtainedfrom Stovall.(157)
(See fig. IV-15, JFK exhibit F-178, for a display of all of thesephotographic materials except CE-134,which is shownin fig. IV-22.)

The FBI and the DPD created recreations photos of these BYPs along with the ghost image found at the DPD USING THE 133-C pose... which were not discovered until the HSCA in the mid 70's,
as opposed to using one of the two poses they already had in their possession..

HOW DID THE FBI KNOW TO POSITION THEIR MAN LIKE THAT AND TO CUT THE GHOST OUT IN THAT SHAPE?

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There are a whole slew of these recreation shotos in different locations and I believe they all have a pose which NO ONE should have been aware of unless they were involved in the creation and/or reproduction of the BYPs themselves



and if you re-insert the 133-c pose of Oswald into the ghosted image- it's not even close - so there are at least 2 ghosted image backgrounds and it appears as if the ghost was copied onto the one on the right
you can see the drop shadow. There are more versions of this UNKNOWN in 1963 POSE than we know...

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