01-03-2014, 09:40 AM
Jim Hargrove Wrote:Bill Simpich Wrote:Jim,
My mind is open on this subject. The CIA failed to provide to the HSCA or the ARRB the photos from LILYRIC or the Cuban consulate, as discussed in Chapter 4. So the photos may be hidden from us to this day.
I have to say, though, that if you look at the Cuban and Soviet embassy photo logs you will notice several things. The visits for Friday, Sept. 27 ended in the morning, which was not unusual. They took no photos on Saturday, also not unusual.
Also, those logs were for the embassies. The Cuban consulate was physically separate from the Soviet consulate. The Cuban consulate door had just been reopened to the public after being shut down for a year due to David Phillips' stink bombs (LITAINT)! It was as if they were trying to get the camera working for Oswald's arrival - so there's that issue.
Most importantly to me is that Win Scott said that photos were taken of Oswald coming and going for every visit on Sept. 27 and 28 by Oswald. That would mean at least ten photos. That doesn't line up with what the logs say. I think Scott made that up, because his ego was bruised by the notion that his people didn't photo Oswald.
To make it even wilder, Joseph Piccolo and Stanley Watson remembered seeing a photo of Oswald from a rear view entering the Cuban embassy. Watson said that the photo made Scott "the number one boy" of LBJ. I think it's entirely possible Scott phonied up a photo!
I say the focus should be on getting all the documents released. I also believe that it's the Oswald legend, not what Oswald or an impersonator did in Mexico City, that is so important. I do think that an impersonator was used for the Sept. 28 and Oct 1 calls is important, and tells us what we need to know.
Why was he impersonated? To get the Mexico City and Angleton's people all worked up to conduct a molehunt and find out who breached Mexico City's security. That creates a paper trail around Oswald that can be used for blackmail purposes after the assassination.
Bill
This sounds a little like John Newman's analysis, if I remember it correctly, and there's something about this line of thinking I've never been able to comprehend. Let's just digress for a moment to point out the obvious about "Lee Harvey Oswald," the Russian-speaking commie-talking U.S. marine who knew all kinds of stuff about top secret U-2 spy planes, who "defects" to the U.S.S.R, telling our side he's going to tell the Russkies everything he knows, then gets State Department help to come home without prosecution, and is soon posing as a Castro supporter in New Orleans working for virulent anti-Castro operatives. Then, a few months before the assassination, he gets through U.S. Customs AGAIN, bound for Mexico City, loudly threatens to kill JFK, and then comes back, AGAIN, and again with few repercussions.
Plenty of researchers smarter than me have been reluctant to call Oswald a flat-out spook, but I've never understood why. If his m.o. isn't the m.o. of a spy, I can't imagine a more obvious example.
But back to the matter at hand, if someone OUTSIDE the Agency was going to set up someone as a ticking time bomb with a couple of phone calls and such, it's easy to see why they would want to pick a CIA insider to make the blackmail work. But what would possibly make them think such a plan would work? Agency handlers don't talk to their own operative? They don't know what he looks like or recognize the sound of his voice? It doesn't sound like much of a plan to me.
But if someone INSIDE the Agency was doing the set-up, someone with substantial contacts with the Patsy-to-be, that might be a lot more workable. Just a thought....
Jim
Jim, the book lays out in Chapter 5 that I think someone inside the Agency did the set-up - David Morales or someone a lot like him, probably from the Miami station. That's where the dissension against JFK appeared to be the strongest.
Morales and his buddies were highly skilled in counter-intelligence. They would have had no problem manipulating Oswald - wittingly or unwittingly - into doing pretty much whatever they wanted.