The WAR between JFK and CIA

[David Josephs]

Looks to me like two separate operations co-ordinated from on high.

One team was tasked with killing Kennedy.

The other team was tasked with sheep-dipping/killing Oswald the Red Agent.

We hear a lot about the latter, they who screwed the pooch.

I doubt if we've ever heard one word about the guys who actually killed Kennedy.

I apply a negative template to Oswald -- anyone who had anything to do with the guy had nothing to do with the actual murder of JFK.

Back-up patsies, the lot of them.

Kudos Cliff... well said.

What remains the key aspect of magic and illusion? Keep them looking over here, while reality is over there.

::fortuneteller::

Thank you, David.

Before I continue I just want to make clear I'm not "married' to any scenario, tho I have a couple I like to argue for.

I'm not married to Flechette (high-tech strike back/throat wounds) or WASPS Attack! (Harriman-did-it-w/Rockefeller-blessing). These are not my scenarios, both are almost as old as the murder.

It was the autopsists who, with the body in front of them, speculated to a high-tech explanation for two wounds of entrance/no exits/no bullets.

It was Salandria/Feldman who predicted the circumstances of Oswald's demise.

I'm not married to either Flechette or WASPS Attack! -- I'm just going steady.

Most welcome...

And for the record as well... It is not the scenario or theories I am tied to either... it is the EVIDENCE itself which betrays the scenario... John didn't go looking for H&L just as Lifton did not start out telling himself that there were three casket entries... the EVIDENCE took him there... the EVIDENCE took me there... the EVIDENCE took John there.

John and I discussed, debated, argued, yelled, agreed and disagreed for a year as I went thru each and every page, each and every footnote, each and every applicable Baylor notebook to try and poke holes in the EVIDENCE... I made it to March of 1963 when I jumped forward to Nov 22.... if you'd send me your email address I'd gladly send you my H&L timeline spreadsheet... which condenses the 1000 pages book and tens of thousand of pages of notes into a side by side timeline which helped me pinpoint the conflicts and raise the right questions. It is about 350 rows long with direct quotes from the evidence...

A small part of it I did dismiss as being a bit too speculative or questionable, yet the overwhelming majority I could not... What most who don't read the book don't understand - it was the 10 years of follow-up that makes the case... the interviews and records not pursued by the "official" investigations... which as we read the vast majority of the best books on the subject were the KEYS to the truths involved...

(i.e. It was John who told me that the microfilm of the Kleins orders placed into the archives was empty... and there was no info as to what happened to it... so it is impossible to know if the COPIES that the FBI provided are authentic)

It is with that understanding that I cannot accept the CIA-focused self-evident evidence as the last line in the sand (Sorry Jim) but as the first line of defense with the Military and all its acronyms pulling the operational strings...
With the likes of the Cravath, Swaine and Moore crowd reaping the benefits... and providing the necessary cover

Cheers
DJ