The WAR between JFK and CIA

[David Josephs]

It is with that understanding that I cannot accept the CIA-focused self-evident evidence as the last line in the sand (Sorry Jim) but as the first line of defense with the Military and all its acronyms pulling the operational strings...
With the likes of the Cravath, Swaine and Moore crowd reaping the benefits... and providing the necessary cover

DJ

David,

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the plot involved people in the military or even the Administration itself. The problem is the lack of solid evidence. James Douglass painted a fantastic portrait of just how many enemies Kennedy must have made in the military and elsewhere in the MIC, but that doesn't mean soldiers plotted to kill him.

Compare that to the evidence against the Agency: contemporary news accounts of the war gone public between the Administration and the Agency, the fact that an unnamed Administration official publicly predicted the possibility of a CIA coup six weeks before the coup actually happened, the sworn testimony of the CIA accountant that he was told money he disbursed to an encrypted account as late as a few weeks before the assassination was for "Oswald or the Oswald project," Mark Lane's jury victory in the E. Howard Hunt libel trial, the comments implying CIA involvement made by various government attorneys after their various published whitewashes were completed, and on and on.

If you accuse soldiers and others of being involved in the assassination, but have no direct evidence to back up the claim, you leave yourself and our cause open to criticism that is tough to deflect. Maybe the plotters weren't quite as crafty as you think. My assumption is that the plot came out of the Miami CIA station and used pissed-off Cubans who hated Kennedy as shooters, used "the Oswald Project" as cover, and they got away with it. If you have real evidence that the Agency was a secondary patsy, I'd love to hear it. Mostly what I hear though, is speculation.

Jim

Jim... I respect your asking for the evidence... I would advise you read John's ONI notebook... and ONI Enclosures A (100 pages) and C (81 pages)....

What you seem to dismiss is that by definition, what I propose would lead to there not being any ONI evidence... or to it so blatantly and obviously NOT being there...

Who was it that ordered Galloway, Burkley and Kinney to oversee the alteration of the wounds at Bethesda Jim?
Which CIA officers where in the room to insure it was done?
What is LeMay's connection to the CIA?
Which CIA members were on AF-1 on the return trip? or in the Situation room in DC at the time?
Please connect Bundy to the CIA for me..

....to get a better picture of Navy Rear Adm Rufus Taylor who is at the head of the list within the first few pages of that notebook... if you can read thru all those materials and follow some of the hard work already done by top notch researchers, I hope you can come to find that this theory is not so far-fetched. If you honestly believe that the Military did not oversee and direct the CIA from its inception to be this wall of protection, this easily identifyable Bad Guy which would defelct attention from the military and its Intelligence Ops with easy and obviousness... I'd ask that you illustrate what the CIA was able to do without the oversight and support of the Military... Fletcher Prouty, the Military/CIA liason who did the job we are talking about would disagree...

Born in St. Louis, Missouri, Taylor graduated from the United States Naval Academyin 1933. Taylor became Director of Naval Intelligence, 1963-1966. Then in June 1966, he was made Vice Admiral and Deputy Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. That September President Lyndon Baines Johnson appointed him Deputy Director of Central Intelligence at CIA; he was quickly confirmed by the United States Senate. He served at CIA under DCIRichard Helms. Taylor later resigned as DDCI effective February 1969.[SUP][1][/SUP]


I also suggest you re-read The Secret Team. It took a Military man to serve the CIA up on a platter.... and a Military man to expose what the Pentagon Papers really were...
It's all a smoke-screen Jim... and one of the greatest never-ending hoaxes ever perpetrated...

The man who must depend upon
research and investigation inevitably falls victim to the many pitfalls of the secret world
and of the "cover story" world with its lies and counter-lies. - Prouty 1972

And this excellent essay from Bill Kelly explaining how the ONI was much more thorough at destroying any connection between it and 11/22, while we repeatedly find "obvious" signs of the CIA's fingerprints leading us nowhere.

http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2011/...-gone.html
"In its Final Declaration of Compliance, ONI stated that it conducted an extensive review of ONI records held at Federal Records Centers throughout the country. ONI did not identify any additional assassination records. ONI was unable to find any relevant files for the Director of ONI from 1959 to 1964." - Final Report ARRB

Are you of the position that this all powerful and mighty CIA was so inept as to leave such an obvious trail of breadcrumbs - rather than feeding us these crumbs, these mountains of minutia that resulted in Salandria's unheeded warning? While at the same time created the cottage JFK Conspiracy industry... just enough to keep the micro-analysis going, but never enough to make our case against anyone else.

"We must face that fact -- and not waste any more time micro-analyzing the
evidence. That's exactly what they want us to do. They have kept us
busy for so long. And I will bet, buddy, that is what will happen to
you. They'll keep you very, very busy and, eventually, they'll wear you
down."