The WAR between JFK and CIA

[David Josephs]

Hey, David,

You've done great work here, and I give your work my solid support.

I'll be on the watch for your suspects above the CIA, and I mean no disrespect whatsoever. Let's find them!!
Thanks again.

Jim

Jim, David,

Check out the views of counter-insurgency expert William R. Corson on the over-throw of Diem in Vietnam, as laid out in Joseph Trento's The Secret History of the CIA, pgs 334-5:

Who changed the coup into the murder of Diem, Nhu and a Catholic priest accompanying them? To this day, nothing has been found in government archives tying the killings to either John or Robert Kennedy. So how did the tools and talents developed by Bill Harvey for ZR/RIFLE and Operation MONGOOSE get exported to Vietnam? Kennedy immediately ordered (William R.) Corson to find out what had happened and who was responsible. The answer he came up with: "On instructions from Averell Harriman…. The orders that ended in the deaths of Diem and his brother originated with Harriman and were carried out by Henry Cabot Lodge's own military assistant."

Having served as ambassador to Moscow and governor of New York, W. Averell Harriman was in the middle of a long public career. In 1960, President-elect Kennedy appointed him ambassador-at-large, to operate "with the full confidence of the president and an intimate knowledge of all aspects of United States policy." By 1963, according to Corson, Harriman was running "Vietnam without consulting the president or the attorney general."

The president had begun to suspect that not everyone on his national security team was loyal. As Corson put it, "Kenny O'Donnell (JFK's appointments secretary) was convinced that McGeorge Bundy, the national security advisor, was taking orders from Ambassador Averell Harriman and not the president. He was especially worried about Michael Forrestal, a young man on the White House staff who handled liaison on Vietnam with Harriman."

At the heart of the murders was the sudden and strange recall of Sagon Station Chief Jocko Richardson and his replacement by a no-name team barely known to history. The key member was a Special Operations Army officer, John Michael Dunn, who took his orders, not from the normal CIA hierarchy but from Harriman and Forrestal.

According to Corson, "John Michael Dunn was known to be in touch with the coup plotters," although Dunn's role has never been made public. Corson believes that Richardson was removed so that Dunn, assigned to Ambassador Lodge for "special operations," could act without hindrance.

So if Corson was correct, there were military/intel types who did not follow either the military or intel hierarchies, but the command of W. Averell Harriman.

Who might have played the Forrestal go-between role in Dallas? George HW Bush?

Cliff...

Makes perfect sense to recognize Harriman over Bundy... a non-elected adviser and man at the center of so many policy orders... Harriman the perfect conduit for the wishes of those pulling levers... the bankers/lawyers at the Brown level and above.

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The connections to the Germans is unavoidable...
the connection to communist influence at the transition between Hot War to Cold War... The rebuilding of the German world order centered/financed now from South America... fully integrated into the new world intelligence community... Russians/Asians infiltrated every major intelligence service and used the movement of post WWII refugees to solidify this control.

As open as the US society was, I think we lose sight as to how easy it was for other nations with a history of infiltration and propaganda - financed by the same elite who we are now referring to - to be so representative on both sides of the War... and to control most of the information, most of the outcomes... and benefit from them as best as possible.

It would be of some surprise to know the extent of nation-less individuals operating under ideological morals - the locking of "hearts and minds" forces - democracy vs communism vs fascism - all result with the same oligarchy on top.
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Would a man like GHW be placed in potential harm's way? A future president... a CIA protected "elite" asset...

I don't know... interesting thought though...
thanks
DJ