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The WAR between JFK and CIA
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Cliff Varnell Wrote:
David Josephs Wrote:Harriman the perfect conduit for the wishes of those pulling levers.

David, the more I read about this guy the less likely it seems anyone was pulling his levers.

Harriman acted like a sovereign. His long-time employee was Prescott Bush. His wife Pamela Churchill Harriman raised 12 million dollars for Bill Clinton's 1992 Prez campaign.

The proteges of Ave and Pam occupied the White House for 20 years after Harriman died in '86.

There has never been a geopolitical operator like W. Averell Harriman.

Likely 2016 Pres match-up: Hillary Clinton v. Jeb Bush. It'll be the coziest intra-mural contest since Averell ran against Nelson Rockefeller for Gov of NY in 1958.

Central to the concept of SPONSORS is that there are no rogues... that there is a plan and direction and that it is coordinated... not necessarily that someone was pulling his levers as much as his actions were part of a whole designed to forward the interests of a global concern...

Skull and Bones... largest inherited fortune in the US.... 1945 Ambassador to the USSR.... Supporter of Kennan's Long Telegram...
Harriman was one of the architects of the Cold War and the unbridled expansion of the MICComplex thru the 50's.

He was placed into a perfect position to influence policy and make his own as need be... his "own" being a relative term.
The connection to USSR diplomacy appears to be a common vein running thru these NorthEast Elites... much of my attention now is in the 20's and 30's which lays the groundwork for what occurs during FDR's initial terms and into the creation of the OSS and its transition into the CIA... all of which done with the military and NE elites at the center...

Espionage predates the USA by hundreds if not thousands of European/Eurasian years... and are the models for the US efforts... without a study of the British Security Coordination, Canadian industrialist William Stephenson, "Wild Bill" Donovan, and South America I don't think we can get a true image of what was going on at the time the CIA was created and the Military was reorganized. Behind that I am also looking back to the beginning of US espionage, the Culper Ring... along with the start of US Banking with Hamilton and Burr... and in turn the rise of the lawyers... Law and Money runs it all, imho, and is so insulated at this point as to be virtually impossible to penetrate.

During WWI I believe the "axis" countries realized how easy it would be to infiltrate and control US politics after having done so with the creation of the CFR and the passage of the Fed Reserve Act... I do not see it as much of a stretch to connect the creation of the CIA with the needs to counterbalance the KGB and what to do with the existing European spy rings so that the Russians didn't own the entire game... or, depending on how you see it, maybe they did.

M.A.D. spent the huge sums of money arming each side while the spies played the ground game... and kept the war fires burning...

at the end of the day, there is no difference between communism and capitalism at the MIC Complex level... and now with "terrorism" as the never-ending bogeyman of the world, we are offered an enemy that will never disappear, never be depleted, and easily identifiable regardless of who actually causes any "problem"...

Clinton v Bush... I shudder at the thought Cliff... thanks for the nightmares!
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right.....
R. Hunter
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The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 13-03-2014, 08:02 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Paul Rigby - 13-03-2014, 10:19 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 13-03-2014, 11:28 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by David Josephs - 14-03-2014, 12:09 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 14-03-2014, 12:45 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by David Josephs - 14-03-2014, 01:09 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 14-03-2014, 01:45 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Cliff Varnell - 14-03-2014, 01:57 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 14-03-2014, 02:30 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by David Josephs - 15-03-2014, 12:32 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 15-03-2014, 02:27 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 15-03-2014, 03:07 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 15-03-2014, 02:41 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by David Josephs - 15-03-2014, 06:06 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 16-03-2014, 12:38 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by LR Trotter - 16-03-2014, 08:59 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 17-03-2014, 01:13 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Cliff Varnell - 17-03-2014, 03:53 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 17-03-2014, 04:17 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Cliff Varnell - 17-03-2014, 04:18 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 17-03-2014, 04:36 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by LR Trotter - 17-03-2014, 05:27 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Cliff Varnell - 17-03-2014, 06:05 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Cliff Varnell - 17-03-2014, 06:26 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by LR Trotter - 17-03-2014, 09:59 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 17-03-2014, 05:02 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Cliff Varnell - 17-03-2014, 06:04 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Cliff Varnell - 17-03-2014, 06:24 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Cliff Varnell - 17-03-2014, 06:58 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 17-03-2014, 07:59 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Cliff Varnell - 18-03-2014, 03:26 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 18-03-2014, 04:55 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Cliff Varnell - 18-03-2014, 02:01 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 18-03-2014, 04:55 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by LR Trotter - 18-03-2014, 05:39 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Anthony DeFiore - 18-03-2014, 07:08 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Albert Doyle - 18-03-2014, 08:34 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Cliff Varnell - 19-03-2014, 01:59 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by LR Trotter - 19-03-2014, 03:31 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 19-03-2014, 02:42 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Cliff Varnell - 19-03-2014, 04:12 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 19-03-2014, 04:58 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Cliff Varnell - 20-03-2014, 12:31 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 20-03-2014, 01:12 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by David Josephs - 20-03-2014, 05:25 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 21-03-2014, 02:39 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by David Josephs - 21-03-2014, 05:24 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by David Josephs - 23-03-2014, 05:57 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Paul Rigby - 23-03-2014, 08:49 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 23-03-2014, 10:05 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by David Josephs - 24-03-2014, 01:48 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 29-03-2014, 02:57 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Cliff Varnell - 30-03-2014, 06:04 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by David Josephs - 30-03-2014, 07:37 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Cliff Varnell - 31-03-2014, 06:13 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by David Josephs - 31-03-2014, 04:53 PM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by Jim Hargrove - 18-04-2014, 01:36 AM
The WAR between JFK and CIA - by David Josephs - 18-04-2014, 04:32 PM

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