US/NATO War on Russia

[Magda Hassan]

Lauren, Magda, others, While the 'West' [US/NATO] may have started this ugly game, now I see both sides playing 'ugly'. There are reliable reports of non-Muslim Chechen Regular fighters [and/or other Russian Regular forces without markings] there, with weaponry that only could be supplied by the Russian Armed Forces. Yes, the Ukrainian military have them too, but there are no verified reports of arms caches being seized inside the Ukraine. Face it - there are NO 'good guys' in this [or any] 'war'. Both sides will spin it with disinformation and it will be hard to tell...but I think I'm reading this correctly, given what we now can know. I'm not saying one side is 'white' and the other 'black'. I'm saying both are wrong and 'black' and this will soon descend into total chaos and a bloodbath unless both sides back off immediately. If the Eastern Ukraine needs to succeed, it needs to do so without battles and without outside warriors. If the rest of the Ukraine wants to proceed and thrive, it needs immediately to NEGOTIATE with those who want out and stop the fighting too. Sadly, I see the Ukraine being played as a chess board by the major powers.

My general reading from what I hear from some in the area is huge disappointment with Putin for not coming to their rescue. He hasn't brought in the tanks and brigades to liberate the east from the fascists.We'd hear all about it from the US satellites if the borders were breeched. Certainly there have been Russian volunteers and Chechens too. How are they getting in? Doesn't the Ukraine still control their borders? Also I don't really see this a west vs the Ukraine so much as the EU and the US and the Ukraine. The EU and the US don't have exactly the same interests in this. More like the US has been using the lever of the EU to pull Ukraine away from Russia. And some Ukrainians have fallen for it too. A disfunctional broke and broken state is not exactly a prize for the EU. Probably the US way of fucking them over too. Two birds with one stone. I think the US is fine with a civil war and it being split. The part they can keep will join NATO and brings them closer to Russia and it will still leave a destabilised rump. Good for arms dealers as always and can be used to resurrect the ghosts of the cold war. Glory days for arms dealers. Keeps Putin on the back foot. Keeps the EU on the back foot as they have to deal with all sorts of other separatists wanting to split in Spain and Scotland and other places instead of ruling authoritatively from Brussels. Which admittedly the policies of several European countries are doing a good job of that anyway. But still beneficial to the US.