19-06-2014, 08:13 AM
(This post was last modified: 19-06-2014, 09:21 AM by David Guyatt.)
Now that is interesting about Robert Baer. I'm old enough and ugly enough to have considered that possibility, but didn't. Step warily in future, I will (said in my best master Yoda voice).
I am also interested in what you said about Sullivan's gun rights campaign and the Columbine school massacre, because this is similar to the Dunblane school shootings which led to a very much tighter gun control in the UK. Besides that, the perp of that killing spree, Thomas Hamilton was a nasty paedophile and a freemason and highly connected to important VIP circles in the Scottish establishment who were themselves Freemasons.
It seems there might be an an international connection here...
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In the Dunblane massacre I would hazard that a good number of the high and mighty were Freemasons. I'm hesitant to mention this to avoid getting the reputation that I'm anti-freemasonic. I'm not. But I know someone, a former spook, who lives in Scotland who has written about Dunblane. The Cullen Inquiry report into Dunblane was wrapped in government secrecy and subject to the 100 year rule - reserved for the absolutely most secretive situations. It has been said that this rule was put in place to suppress the links between the perp, Thomas Hamilton and a number of prominent Scots of whom some were Freemasons (see same linked article).
Lord Cullen, although he denied he was a Freemason, actually was listed as number 1702 on the membership list of the Speculative Society of Edinburgh, which is an offshoot of Freemasonry and was exclusively founded by Freemasons from the Lodge Canongate Kilwinning No. 2 in 1764. In other words Cullen was a non-freemason freemason.
Interestingly, ands just to keep the US aspect to the fore, Martin Frost wrote an essay on the Speculative Society of Edinburgh in which he states that "There is some suggestion that Speculative Society members were active in promoting the American Rebellion better known as the American War of Independence."
Coming back to the 9/11 Eye of Horus ceremony. Freemasons call this the Eye of Providence (slightly different style of eye shape), so we might reasonably conclude that this was a Freemasonic ceremony, or more specifically, the Scottish Rite freemasons that are so powerful in the US and which we've discussed before in regard to Kubrick's film, Eyes Wide Shut & 9/11 (yet another reference to eyes oddly enough) thread HERE.
So if I were to make a speculation about the American side of the Speculative Society of Edinburgh, the American Civil War and 9/11 and all these associated matters, it would be that the beast we're dealing with actually is Scottish Rite freemasonry - an immensely powerful US covert religious sect that resides throughout all strata's of American life and power.
I am also interested in what you said about Sullivan's gun rights campaign and the Columbine school massacre, because this is similar to the Dunblane school shootings which led to a very much tighter gun control in the UK. Besides that, the perp of that killing spree, Thomas Hamilton was a nasty paedophile and a freemason and highly connected to important VIP circles in the Scottish establishment who were themselves Freemasons.
It seems there might be an an international connection here...
Edit =:
In the Dunblane massacre I would hazard that a good number of the high and mighty were Freemasons. I'm hesitant to mention this to avoid getting the reputation that I'm anti-freemasonic. I'm not. But I know someone, a former spook, who lives in Scotland who has written about Dunblane. The Cullen Inquiry report into Dunblane was wrapped in government secrecy and subject to the 100 year rule - reserved for the absolutely most secretive situations. It has been said that this rule was put in place to suppress the links between the perp, Thomas Hamilton and a number of prominent Scots of whom some were Freemasons (see same linked article).
Lord Cullen, although he denied he was a Freemason, actually was listed as number 1702 on the membership list of the Speculative Society of Edinburgh, which is an offshoot of Freemasonry and was exclusively founded by Freemasons from the Lodge Canongate Kilwinning No. 2 in 1764. In other words Cullen was a non-freemason freemason.
Interestingly, ands just to keep the US aspect to the fore, Martin Frost wrote an essay on the Speculative Society of Edinburgh in which he states that "There is some suggestion that Speculative Society members were active in promoting the American Rebellion better known as the American War of Independence."
Coming back to the 9/11 Eye of Horus ceremony. Freemasons call this the Eye of Providence (slightly different style of eye shape), so we might reasonably conclude that this was a Freemasonic ceremony, or more specifically, the Scottish Rite freemasons that are so powerful in the US and which we've discussed before in regard to Kubrick's film, Eyes Wide Shut & 9/11 (yet another reference to eyes oddly enough) thread HERE.
So if I were to make a speculation about the American side of the Speculative Society of Edinburgh, the American Civil War and 9/11 and all these associated matters, it would be that the beast we're dealing with actually is Scottish Rite freemasonry - an immensely powerful US covert religious sect that resides throughout all strata's of American life and power.
Anthony Thorne Wrote:Quote:I've not seen this before so I found it very useful. Particularly the clip of the guy who revealed on camera that he knew "the guy who went into his broker in San Diego and said cash me out it's going down tomorrow" - then added, absolutely damningly I thought: "his brother works in the White House".
The guy talking in the clip is Robert Baer, who is himself a former CIA case officer. Baer has also discussed the cheering Israeli onlookers (with the white van) in other clips online, but tends to then mix these assertions with possibly true but unverifiable commentary about Bin Laden dealing pre 9/11 with Iranian intelligence, so Baer's position is a little hard to parse. He has criticised the 9/11 report in print though, and his comments seem to have grown more critical of the official 9/11 story over the years.
Quote:VIP's blackmailed, maybe including Poppy Bush, paedophilia and child sex trafficking, drug trafficking and use and abuse, money, money and money scams and schemes all over the place. And if the hint about the religious ceremony at the 911 site is, as I am sure it is, an occult ceremony forming the Eye of Horus on the sacrificial ground, then the ushering in of a new aeon of utter darkness.
There seems to have been a lot of VIP blackmail in Colorado, some linked to a labyrinthine escort agency blackmail ring which received much print and radio coverage in the State, and which included a federal judge. Jonathan linked that escort agency scandal (and I'll dig up the specific names and links for that later- it came up a number of times in radio interviews) to Sullivan's own ring of child trafficking, and suggested they were all part of the same ongoing activity. Jonathan's interviews with former victims (some of whom are now drifters or drug addicts in the Colorado area) made it clear that organised child abuse had been going on for many, many years. Jonathan became very emotional describing one such person he'd interviewed - a mentally retarded man who had suffered further brain damage years earlier from receiving systemic dosages of a date rape drug as a young teenager, presumably given to him by Sullivan or a cohort.
Speaking of Sullivan, from early 2002.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=126460
"On the tape, played in part this morning on ABCNEWS' Good Morning America, an Arapahoe County, Colo., sheriff's deputy seems to give an account of 15-year-old Daniel Rohrbough's death that is at odds with the long-standing official police version and a new police statement released Monday.
Arapahoe County Sheriff Patrick J. Sullivan Jr. whose department was one of several that responded to the April 20, 1999, shootings at the high school in Littleton in Jefferson County denied knowing of any cover-up. He said he has placed Deputy Jim Taylor on administrative leave while he investigates the differences between the comments on the tape and a statement Taylor gave to investigators.
"I firmly believe there is no cover-up in the Columbine investigation," Sullivan said today. "I am deeply troubled by the comments of Jim Taylor that could have misled the Rohrboughs, and we're investigating the contents of the tape and Taylor's role at Columbine."
And from 2011:
http://gazette.com/town-hall-bad-sheriff...cle/129831
"Sullivan served as the most formidable foe of gun rights for decades. He rose to national prominence in 1989 when he rescued a wounded deputy during a standoff. Sullivan exploited the incident to promote gun control, holding up a semiautomatic weapon and demanding more gun restrictions. Sullivan used the Columbine tragedy to advocate gun control."
And from 2012:
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/201...59592.html
"Are forced druggings, indefinite psychiatric detentions, and mysterious deaths part of a plot to cover up police rape being the cause of the Columbine shootings?"
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14