Malaysian plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border - live

[David Guyatt]

Oh please....if this isn't an invention for one of many reasons, they could have lost blood with the depressurization of the plane. Everyone saw them get on the plane fine and the pilots certainly weren't dead nor flying a hearse.

I wouldn't be quite so dismissive. This direct from yesterday's Strelkov briefing:

July 18, 2014 Information Regarding the Boeing from Igor Strelkov - regarding Boeing 777, Flight MH17:
Igor Strelkov: According to the information received from the people who collected the corpses, a large number of the corpses are "not fresh" these are people who died a few days ago. I cannot vouch for complete accuracy of this information of course, we will have to wait for conclusions from forensic specialists.
- "Somebody of course must have been piloting this plane, which, to boot, would be impossible to leave. The theory that the plane was full of dead people is, of course, breathtaking; however, it does not seem to make sense."
Igor Strelkov: First of all, not all the people in the plane were dead prior to the fall.
Second, a large quantity of medication, including blood serum and so forth, was found in the airplane, which is not characteristic of a regular airliner. It looks like there was some kind of special medical cargo on board.
Third, I do not insist on anything (for now). It's just that only moments ago I spoke with two individuals who personally gathered the corpses after the crash (both of them are from Shakhtersk and arrived at the scene less than half an hour after the catastrophe). I am writing exactly what they told me. They emphasized that a large number of the corpses were "completely bloodless" it's as if their blood clotted long before the catastrophe. They also remarked that there was an overwhelming putrid corpse stench, which was also noted by many locals a smell like that could not have formed in half an hour in any weather, let alone in the cloudy, temperate weather we had yesterday.
Fourth, while I am usually very suspicious of any "conspiracy theories" myself, but the 18 of our fighters that were poisoned with chemical weapons at their positions in Semyonovka, the executions of the militiamen's family members and all other "small joys of Ukie patriots" have convinced me that the Ukrainian government is capable of any villainy.
The pilots were, of course, perfectly alive the entire cabin (and the front part is well preserved) was literally bathed in their blood.

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I have followed Strelkov's briefings closely for months now and know him as a man to be reckoned with. His words are always calm and measured - not unlike Putin's actually.

As he makes clear, it is too early to be definitive about what it really means but it looks like there really were a significant number of corpses present on board that plane.

For an even more bizarre speculation about what it DOES mean, try this from Yoichi Shimatsu , who turned out to pretty accurate about Edward Snowden's real status and how he ended up in Moscow.

How would that explain that just moments before the plane was boarded, friends and relatives saw those on the plane alive - unless there was a plane 'switch'...which starts to get into very complex false-flag and the kinds of mysteries as in 911 of if plane switches, what happened to the passengers..... I'll wait, but find this very, very unlikely. Rapid depressurization at high altitude could explain the strange bloodless/fluidless bodies, and other changes to them. IF it is true that blood was only in the cabin, they may have seen the missile or after the strike have put on oxygen masks. The cabin is only slightly differently pressurized - the door not being built to be a pressure door - only a security door. Of course anything is possible - but......

Uhm, Peter, Igor Strelkov is just relaying what was reported to him, he himself, said it does not seem to make sense. Lets see what comes of these body's.

I know and worked with Yoichi Shimatsu years ago, and always regarded him as a competent and reliable journalist. But we'll wait and see where this line of argument goes...