06-08-2014, 05:32 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-08-2014, 06:13 PM by Drew Phipps.)
I think there is another angle to work on Ruby's story. Ruby took a polygraph test, over his attorney's objection, concerning his role in both JFK and Oswald's shooting, with questions drawn from witness statements that were known at the time. The polygraph test was administered by FBI SA Herndon.
(http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/war...ix-17.html )
Ruby denied knowing pretty much anything other than the story he told at trial, which was that he acted alone, and without foresight.
SA Herndon, testifying to the HSCA (iirc) claimed Ruby passed the polygraph.
(http://www.jfk-online.com/rubyhscapoly.html)
Herndon was careful to qualify his opinion with the assumption that Ruby wasn't psychotic (i.e. that he would know the difference between the truth and a lie). I would also suggest that folks can fool the polygraph (if trained), and the polygraph examiner can fudge the results, which are subjective (which is why they aren't used in court). The HSCA found that improper polygraph procedures were used and that the test couldn't be considered reliable. (same link as above)
One of the specific questions Ruby passed was whether or not he went to Parkland Hospital the day of the Kennedy assasination. He denied it. (His denial didn't even cause the machine to twitch enough to merit a follow-up question, something that happened on a few other statements) This directly contradicts the publicly known account of reporter Seth Kantor, who claims he was following Kilduff to the Parkland press conference announcing JFK's death when he was accosted by Ruby in the hall. The general consensus of the government is that Kantor was mistaken about seeing Ruby. On the other hand, Kantor remembers Ruby talking about closing his club, something Ruby apparently mentioned to everyone else who ran into him.
So, is Kilduff lying, or Ruby? If Kilduff is lying, then Ruby probably acted alone. If Ruby is lying, then he is either a total psycho (not believed by a handful of psychiatrists who tested him, except the defense expert Dr. William Beavers, who the jury didn't believe) - which btw would probably make him not guilty by reason of insanity - or he beat the polygraph by training, or by the connivance of the FBI polygraph examiner.
One last point: There were a handful of Ruby sightings at the scene of the JFK assassination, by otherwise reasonably reputable witnesses, including an Altgens photo (iirc) with a guy that looks like Ruby. Ruby denied being there too, and was confirmed by the polygraph.
(http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/war...ix-17.html )
Ruby denied knowing pretty much anything other than the story he told at trial, which was that he acted alone, and without foresight.
SA Herndon, testifying to the HSCA (iirc) claimed Ruby passed the polygraph.
(http://www.jfk-online.com/rubyhscapoly.html)
Herndon was careful to qualify his opinion with the assumption that Ruby wasn't psychotic (i.e. that he would know the difference between the truth and a lie). I would also suggest that folks can fool the polygraph (if trained), and the polygraph examiner can fudge the results, which are subjective (which is why they aren't used in court). The HSCA found that improper polygraph procedures were used and that the test couldn't be considered reliable. (same link as above)
One of the specific questions Ruby passed was whether or not he went to Parkland Hospital the day of the Kennedy assasination. He denied it. (His denial didn't even cause the machine to twitch enough to merit a follow-up question, something that happened on a few other statements) This directly contradicts the publicly known account of reporter Seth Kantor, who claims he was following Kilduff to the Parkland press conference announcing JFK's death when he was accosted by Ruby in the hall. The general consensus of the government is that Kantor was mistaken about seeing Ruby. On the other hand, Kantor remembers Ruby talking about closing his club, something Ruby apparently mentioned to everyone else who ran into him.
So, is Kilduff lying, or Ruby? If Kilduff is lying, then Ruby probably acted alone. If Ruby is lying, then he is either a total psycho (not believed by a handful of psychiatrists who tested him, except the defense expert Dr. William Beavers, who the jury didn't believe) - which btw would probably make him not guilty by reason of insanity - or he beat the polygraph by training, or by the connivance of the FBI polygraph examiner.
One last point: There were a handful of Ruby sightings at the scene of the JFK assassination, by otherwise reasonably reputable witnesses, including an Altgens photo (iirc) with a guy that looks like Ruby. Ruby denied being there too, and was confirmed by the polygraph.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."