03-12-2014, 04:10 PM
Malcolm John Wrote:Thats not the case with David and this one issue though is it, he is affronted as he is English, so can't seperate that from his attitude to my posts. Would you describe the American Revolution as a 'tribal' and 'parochial' event? When Americans celebrate the 4th of July are the being 'tribal' and 'parochial'? If not, why is a Scottish Nationalist tribal and parochial? Explain the difference. He is just affronted as it is his country I am talking about, so he feels the need, even subconsciously, to inuslt and denigrate, and I have had that all my life from the London press and won't put up with it anymore, we are as entitled as any other country in the world to want what all other countries in the world have, and there's nothing 'tribal' or 'parochial' about that.
I would categorize the above sentiments and viewpoints as politically naive - more so from a Deep Political perspective [and this is the Deep Politics Forum, if you hadn't noticed]. I would not use the words, but the terms tribal and parochial would fit about the American Revolution - which was not a populist rebellion [except in propaganda and mythology and/or fueled by propaganda and mythology] - but that of the American wealthy to not be taxed and harassed by the British wealthy - but then they turned around and did to the average American People what had mostly been done to them by the British. Personally, I think humans should go back to more of their tribal wisdom and roots and cut off the 'feet' of the Oligarchy wherever they live. I feel that where you are coming from leaves me with little interest to engage in further debate.
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