Scotish independence

[Peter Lemkin]

And you don't think its accurate to say there is no or negligible democratic deficit in England? England, as an entity, almost always gets the government it votes for, and has never in history had a government it overwhelmingly voted against. Wales usually doesn't get the government it voted for, Scotland usually doesn't, Northern Ireland never does, and all three regularly get governments they overwhelmingly rejected at the ballot box. I don't think people outside the UK actually understand what the UK is and how politics works, thats why you get attitudes like yours whenever this issue is raised. The UK is not one country, it is four countries or three and a territory joined together in political union, one of those countries has democracy, the other three do not.

Again, IMO, an oversimplistic and naive political view - and nothing of Deep Political nor historical reality woven in. As I said before, I don't think the UK as a whole, nor its constituent parts - any of them - have nor will have much democracy. You seem to think the system 'works' as the propaganda states. I'm not interested in debating such a completely alien idea. You may have fallen for their lies and propaganda - or have not fully analyzed history and political events. The elites in England [and elsewhere] call the shots [sometimes literally] and the populace's voting get them a sham democracy, a very partial faux democracy at best - really an Oligarchic system with voting to fool the people. I'd suggest you look at the archived posts on this forum on topics of interest....