19-02-2015, 07:14 PM
"I'd need a bit more nefarious behavior by these guys - the real question is why the WC lawyers would want them to amend their statements to include a delay.
Lovelady does not appear to me in the film of Baker running to the steps..."
You are correct. Lovelady is not on the steps when Baker runs up them. Baker testified, and this testimony was put to the test in a re-enactment, that 15 seconds elapsed from the time he heard the 3rd shot, until he was going through the front door of the TSBD. If Lovelady and Shelley actually were 25 steps down the Elm St. extension, when they looked back to see Truly and Baker enter the TSBD, they likely had to leave the steps just before the 3rd shot.
The whole point of my argument is that Shelley's and Lovelady's lies were not only in their WC testimony, but in their affidavits, as well. Look at the map Tracy posted. As soon as they took five steps away from the TSBD steps, they eliminated any chance of running into Gloria Calvary, as she would have been coming up the Elm St. sidewalk, and they were going in almost the opposite direction. Why was it so important for Shelley to mention Gloria Calvary by name in his affidavit, especially when the physical evidence shows it would have been impossible for he and Lovelady to have run into her? Did she pose some threat to the coverup, and was it necessary to put her somewhere else at a certain time?
I think the real reason why the WC lawyers needed Shelley and Lovelady to delay their time of leaving the TSBD steps by 3-4 minutes is as plain as the nose on your face, and is one of the cornerstones of the coverup. Victoria Adams swore that she and Sandra Styles were on the 4th floor of the TSBD, watching the motorcade, and, immediately after the last shot, ran down the very same stairs Oswald allegedly ran down, and Baker and Truly ran up. And, of course, we all know she saw neither saw or heard anyone on those stairs but her and Sandra Styles. Her story had the potential to sink the whole 2nd floor Oswald/Baker encounter. By delaying Shelley and Lovelady by 3-4 minutes, and having them encounter Ms. Adams on the main floor, on her way out the door, serious doubt could be thrown on her coverup-breaking story's timing, and she could be made to look like a silly young woman in three inch heels who couldn't estimate time, or run down stairs very quickly.
However, if she was accurate about her timing from the 4th floor, and it was Shelley and Lovelady who were put up to perjury by the WC lawyers, it is not just her lack of contact with Oswald that is troubling. The real question is, why did she not run into Truly and Baker on the stairs? Has Baker's timing been adjusted for the coverup, as well?
P.S.
The ears don't look right. Shelley's ears stick out sideways like Dumbo's. The guy in the NO photo has ears tucked neatly to the side of his head, unless the ear in the NO photo has been cropped and adjusted.
Lovelady does not appear to me in the film of Baker running to the steps..."
You are correct. Lovelady is not on the steps when Baker runs up them. Baker testified, and this testimony was put to the test in a re-enactment, that 15 seconds elapsed from the time he heard the 3rd shot, until he was going through the front door of the TSBD. If Lovelady and Shelley actually were 25 steps down the Elm St. extension, when they looked back to see Truly and Baker enter the TSBD, they likely had to leave the steps just before the 3rd shot.
The whole point of my argument is that Shelley's and Lovelady's lies were not only in their WC testimony, but in their affidavits, as well. Look at the map Tracy posted. As soon as they took five steps away from the TSBD steps, they eliminated any chance of running into Gloria Calvary, as she would have been coming up the Elm St. sidewalk, and they were going in almost the opposite direction. Why was it so important for Shelley to mention Gloria Calvary by name in his affidavit, especially when the physical evidence shows it would have been impossible for he and Lovelady to have run into her? Did she pose some threat to the coverup, and was it necessary to put her somewhere else at a certain time?
I think the real reason why the WC lawyers needed Shelley and Lovelady to delay their time of leaving the TSBD steps by 3-4 minutes is as plain as the nose on your face, and is one of the cornerstones of the coverup. Victoria Adams swore that she and Sandra Styles were on the 4th floor of the TSBD, watching the motorcade, and, immediately after the last shot, ran down the very same stairs Oswald allegedly ran down, and Baker and Truly ran up. And, of course, we all know she saw neither saw or heard anyone on those stairs but her and Sandra Styles. Her story had the potential to sink the whole 2nd floor Oswald/Baker encounter. By delaying Shelley and Lovelady by 3-4 minutes, and having them encounter Ms. Adams on the main floor, on her way out the door, serious doubt could be thrown on her coverup-breaking story's timing, and she could be made to look like a silly young woman in three inch heels who couldn't estimate time, or run down stairs very quickly.
However, if she was accurate about her timing from the 4th floor, and it was Shelley and Lovelady who were put up to perjury by the WC lawyers, it is not just her lack of contact with Oswald that is troubling. The real question is, why did she not run into Truly and Baker on the stairs? Has Baker's timing been adjusted for the coverup, as well?
P.S.
The ears don't look right. Shelley's ears stick out sideways like Dumbo's. The guy in the NO photo has ears tucked neatly to the side of his head, unless the ear in the NO photo has been cropped and adjusted.
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964
Warren Commission testimony of Secret Service Agent Clinton J. Hill, 1964