24-11-2009, 05:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 24-11-2009, 06:20 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
I have a doctorate in Environmental Science and teach it at a University here. The current climatic and other changes to Earth's environment are all due to anthropogenic-induced changes - get over it! We are a plague [literally] on the planet. 7 billion - soon to be between 10-14 billion and destroying our home, 'fouling our bed'. There are many powerful interests who fund 'questioning' and others who can't face the horror [denial]. This is the worst potential/likely catastrophic disaster for humans and many other species in the last few hundred thousand years - and the effects are upon us and will now come at break-neck speeds. Katrina and the ever-growing strength and number of storms are just a taste of what is to come. Most Environmental Scientists now believe we are beyond the tipping point and only disaster can occur...we now have only the choice of how bad the disaster and how long we wait to prepare to ameliorate it, best we can. It is NOT just climate change that is the issue. Humans are out of control and 'sadly' religion and lack of contact with Nature has made humans feel that all is as it should be. I personally feel the deep political 'shit' is motivated by the same hubris, greed, lack of natural values, and denial as are the ecological 'shit' we face. Your children and grandchildren will not look kindly on our generation who sit on their asses and do nothing - some trying to claim it is due to natural cycles of climate change - not true - and a zero percent explanation of all the other environmental assaults this arrogant species has burdened Gaia and all its living things [as well as humankind] with - to the point of facing catastrophe and mass die-offs [non-human and human!] The Native Americans called this coming disaster correctly back in the 1600's! when they saw the values [or lack thereof of] the European invaders - totally out of touch with Nature and natural philosophy. See the threads on Erik Jensen for where we stand and what we must do [destroy civilization to save human kind and Gaia]. The hour is much too late and we are screwed and to die a horrible death as a species [taking along many of the innocent other species] unless we do an immediate and radical 180! :mad:
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass