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Muchmore: Brake Lights On?
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Tracy Riddle Wrote:David H, according to my research, the Z-film was viewed 1/27/1964 by WC staffers, FBI and SS agents.

On 2/25/1964, Herbert Orth, Assistant Chief of Life's photographic lab, brought the original Zapruder film to the WC for viewing, but refused to stop to view individual frames out of fear of causing burn damage.

On 4/14/1964 the autopsy doctors and government ballistics experts viewed the film.

Then on 4/21/1964 the film was viewed again by some Parkland doctors, Dr. Joseph R. Dolce and Dr. Frederick W. Light Jr, Dr. Alfred G. Olivier, several FBI agents, and several WC staffers. I think Connally viewed it around this time as well.

Then in May (I think) a 21-minute film Assassination of President John F. Kennedy was produced by the SS, narrated by Jim Underwood and directed by John Joe Howlett and Talmadge Bailey. It was photographed by Eddie Barker, Jim Underwood, Henk Dewit, and KRLD-TV. It features the unedited Zapruder film (in B&W), and was probably only shown in government circles. But it's now on Youtube.



It's true that we don't have an official chain of possession, but there are a couple of good chronologies on the film's whereabouts that I've seen.


Which film's whereabouts are YOU talking about?

Starting the process at the end of January 1964 as opposed to the 48 hours following 12:30pm 11/22... you're talking about the chronology of an already altered film.
The WC never saw the original film
It is even possible that Dino and Arthur NEVER GOT TO SEE THE ORIGINAL FILM...

Help me out here - A copy of the film is flown to SS Chief Rowley Friday night.

Zapruder has the original and best copy (2) which he gives to Stolley days later. Stolley takes the "original" on 11/25. or at least what he believes to tbe the original.
Sorrels has 2 (2+2=4)
Philips sends Rowley a copy (4+1=5)


0186 went to FBI
0183 and say 0185 go to Stolley/LIFE - and even then that is not easy to prove
0187 is SS #2

Which copy went to Rowley and where did it go after that?

If you can't find it... why couldn't this film be a somewhat sanitized version of 0183... say 0184, a 16mm original copy made at the same time as 0183 or later during 0185/6/7 given to Dino Saturday night? (I know what they SAID... what actually happened is what I'm trying to discover.)

I am thinking alot out loud as I hope to continue the discussion... If Jim doesn't mind it staying here, fine. I have started my hour bby hour discussion elsewhere...

Cheers
DJ
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right.....
R. Hunter
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Muchmore: Brake Lights On? - by Jim DiEugenio - 20-08-2013, 05:55 AM
Muchmore: Brake Lights On? - by John Mooney - 20-08-2013, 01:08 PM
Muchmore: Brake Lights On? - by Tracy Riddle - 20-08-2013, 02:30 PM
Muchmore: Brake Lights On? - by Albert Rossi - 20-08-2013, 03:55 PM
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Muchmore: Brake Lights On? - by Stan Wilbourne - 20-08-2013, 05:46 PM
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Muchmore: Brake Lights On? - by Albert Rossi - 20-08-2013, 06:44 PM
Muchmore: Brake Lights On? - by Tracy Riddle - 20-08-2013, 06:55 PM
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Muchmore: Brake Lights On? - by Tracy Riddle - 23-08-2013, 12:53 AM
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