29-05-2014, 08:45 PM
(This post was last modified: 29-05-2014, 09:07 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
Lauren, Magda, others, While the 'West' [US/NATO] may have started this ugly game, now I see both sides playing 'ugly'. There are reliable reports of non-Muslim Chechen Regular fighters [and/or other Russian Regular forces without markings] there, with weaponry that only could be supplied by the Russian Armed Forces. Yes, the Ukrainian military have them too, but there are no verified reports of arms caches being seized inside the Ukraine. Face it - there are NO 'good guys' in this [or any] 'war'. Both sides will spin it with disinformation and it will be hard to tell...but I think I'm reading this correctly, given what we now can know. I'm not saying one side is 'white' and the other 'black'. I'm saying both are wrong and 'black' and this will soon descend into total chaos and a bloodbath unless both sides back off immediately. If the Eastern Ukraine needs to succeed, it needs to do so without battles and without outside warriors. If the rest of the Ukraine wants to proceed and thrive, it needs immediately to NEGOTIATE with those who want out and stop the fighting too. Sadly, I see the Ukraine being played as a chess board by the major powers.
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"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass