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Heads Up!
Michael Cross Wrote:
Albert Doyle Wrote:Since there's nothing wrong with my science or arguments

Nothing wrong except that it isn't science. It's speculation. You refuse to admit that.

Your THEORY that something could be learned by comparing the elements in the frame is a good one Albert, and if it WAS possible to accurately render the space in three dimensions we could in fact learn something. But it's not. And no amount of claiming you're right because you're right will ever change that. Why you're allowed to proffer this nonsense as being "science" baffles me, but perhaps you amuse the moderators.



You've never shown so directly Michael. Both you and David noticeably skip dealing directly with my arguments only to conclude they are wrong for very general reasons that are not accurate.

I posted some very clear qualifiers based on the internal forensic evidence in Darnell that show why your photogrammetry excuses are not valid and do not take precedence over them. I'm not sure if you and David are aware of it but if you look in this thread you both completely avoided them. You both seem to be positioning yourselves to hide behind David's focal point canard. My forensic arguments overturn that excuse and are better evidence. You're just calling it speculation, but you've had every opportunity to show why. So far you haven't been able to do that. What you are saying is false and my forensic points are connected to very real things seen in Darnell. You are falsely calling that speculation but it isn't. It is based on sound evidence and arguments that you have noticeably been unable to credibly answer. You're stooping to semantics here Michael. Meanwhile my hard science proves Prayer Man can't be leaning against the wall like your mentor Greg Parker suggests. My arguments are connected to firm numbers and science. Yours, semantics. You can't ignore my forensics and then step back and call them speculation.

I have already proven why your claim that nothing can be determined in the portal is wrong by means of the internal forensic identifiers you ignored. Both Unger's and MacRae's film clips both showed Prayer Man at the front of the portal and even with Frazier. The sun illuminating the hand is independent of your focal point obfuscation and is the exact opposite of speculation since the sun plane is a fixed entity in and of itself (that you have failed to answer to). That sun lit hand can only happen at the front of the landing. You haven't even admitted the basic scientific fact that objects at equal distance from Darnell's lens can be directly compared since they exist at the same distance.

You gentlemen don't realize that you've been out-argued. Your focal point depth perception claim is not a valid dismisser of all evidence in the portal as you seem to think. You cannot credibly hide behind it as you are doing or use it to ignore valid arguments. You are conspicuously using it to avoid admitting that we have made a good case that Prayer Man and Frazier are at a comparable distance from Darnell's lens and that the obvious height difference can be used to credibly dismiss Oswald as being Prayer Man.


Messages In This Thread
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 20-02-2016, 10:45 PM
Heads Up! - by Tom Scully - 20-02-2016, 11:20 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 20-02-2016, 11:31 PM
Heads Up! - by Tom Scully - 21-02-2016, 01:03 AM
Heads Up! - by Tracy Riddle - 21-02-2016, 01:38 AM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 21-02-2016, 04:44 AM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 21-02-2016, 04:58 AM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 22-02-2016, 09:30 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 23-02-2016, 05:17 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 23-02-2016, 05:31 PM
Heads Up! - by Tom Scully - 23-02-2016, 09:35 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 23-02-2016, 10:34 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 23-02-2016, 10:49 PM
Heads Up! - by Tom Scully - 23-02-2016, 10:54 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 23-02-2016, 11:21 PM
Heads Up! - by Tom Scully - 23-02-2016, 11:50 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 24-02-2016, 04:33 AM
Heads Up! - by Lauren Johnson - 24-02-2016, 07:22 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 24-02-2016, 07:37 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 24-02-2016, 09:11 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 27-02-2016, 06:55 PM
Heads Up! - by Mark Russo - 04-03-2016, 04:12 AM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 04-03-2016, 06:19 PM
Heads Up! - by Tracy Riddle - 04-03-2016, 08:31 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 04-03-2016, 10:12 PM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 05-03-2016, 12:08 AM
Heads Up! - by Tracy Riddle - 05-03-2016, 12:24 AM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 05-03-2016, 12:35 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 05-03-2016, 01:02 AM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 05-03-2016, 01:19 AM
Heads Up! - by Tracy Riddle - 05-03-2016, 01:49 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 05-03-2016, 05:12 AM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 05-03-2016, 04:28 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 05-03-2016, 04:37 PM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 05-03-2016, 05:42 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 05-03-2016, 06:59 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 07-03-2016, 07:56 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 07-03-2016, 08:34 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 07-03-2016, 09:39 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 07-03-2016, 10:15 PM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 08-03-2016, 01:35 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 08-03-2016, 05:52 AM
Heads Up! - by LR Trotter - 08-03-2016, 06:03 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 08-03-2016, 06:23 AM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 08-03-2016, 10:25 AM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 08-03-2016, 10:47 AM
Heads Up! - by Drew Phipps - 08-03-2016, 02:27 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 08-03-2016, 04:05 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 08-03-2016, 04:18 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 08-03-2016, 04:58 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 08-03-2016, 05:06 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 08-03-2016, 05:21 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 08-03-2016, 05:32 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 08-03-2016, 06:18 PM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 08-03-2016, 06:45 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 08-03-2016, 06:48 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 08-03-2016, 06:49 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 08-03-2016, 08:56 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 08-03-2016, 09:57 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 08-03-2016, 10:27 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 09-03-2016, 12:54 AM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 09-03-2016, 01:41 AM
Heads Up! - by Magda Hassan - 09-03-2016, 02:34 AM
Heads Up! - by Lauren Johnson - 09-03-2016, 06:46 AM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 09-03-2016, 05:00 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 09-03-2016, 05:30 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 09-03-2016, 06:29 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 09-03-2016, 07:20 PM
Heads Up! - by LR Trotter - 10-03-2016, 01:09 AM
Heads Up! - by Drew Phipps - 10-03-2016, 01:33 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 10-03-2016, 02:06 AM
Heads Up! - by Tom Scully - 10-03-2016, 02:55 AM
Heads Up! - by Drew Phipps - 10-03-2016, 02:42 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 10-03-2016, 05:41 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 10-03-2016, 06:06 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 10-03-2016, 06:42 PM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 10-03-2016, 06:52 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 10-03-2016, 07:04 PM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 10-03-2016, 08:24 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 10-03-2016, 08:59 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 10-03-2016, 09:02 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 10-03-2016, 10:07 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 10-03-2016, 10:29 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 10-03-2016, 10:31 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 10-03-2016, 10:36 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 10-03-2016, 11:56 PM
Heads Up! - by LR Trotter - 11-03-2016, 03:43 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 11-03-2016, 05:25 PM
Heads Up! - by Drew Phipps - 11-03-2016, 05:26 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 11-03-2016, 05:45 PM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 11-03-2016, 06:00 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 11-03-2016, 06:03 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 11-03-2016, 06:06 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 11-03-2016, 06:07 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 11-03-2016, 06:39 PM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 11-03-2016, 07:56 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 11-03-2016, 08:24 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 11-03-2016, 08:48 PM
Heads Up! - by Mark A. O'Blazney - 11-03-2016, 08:53 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 11-03-2016, 09:05 PM
Heads Up! - by Drew Phipps - 11-03-2016, 09:07 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 11-03-2016, 09:32 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 11-03-2016, 09:52 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 11-03-2016, 09:57 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 11-03-2016, 10:27 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 11-03-2016, 10:39 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 11-03-2016, 11:25 PM
Heads Up! - by Drew Phipps - 12-03-2016, 12:31 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 12-03-2016, 01:37 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 12-03-2016, 02:05 AM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 12-03-2016, 12:39 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 12-03-2016, 12:44 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 12-03-2016, 12:54 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 12-03-2016, 01:29 PM
Heads Up! - by Drew Phipps - 12-03-2016, 04:04 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 12-03-2016, 04:09 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 12-03-2016, 04:14 PM
Heads Up! - by Drew Phipps - 12-03-2016, 04:19 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 12-03-2016, 04:20 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 12-03-2016, 04:26 PM
Heads Up! - by Drew Phipps - 12-03-2016, 04:34 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 12-03-2016, 04:38 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 12-03-2016, 09:41 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 12-03-2016, 09:47 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 12-03-2016, 09:50 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 12-03-2016, 10:01 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 12-03-2016, 10:02 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 12-03-2016, 10:15 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 12-03-2016, 10:23 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 12-03-2016, 10:37 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 12-03-2016, 10:40 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 12-03-2016, 10:45 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 13-03-2016, 01:29 AM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 13-03-2016, 04:04 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 13-03-2016, 06:02 AM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 13-03-2016, 06:34 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 13-03-2016, 07:15 AM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 13-03-2016, 07:48 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 13-03-2016, 05:42 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 13-03-2016, 06:11 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 13-03-2016, 07:34 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 13-03-2016, 08:48 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 14-03-2016, 04:18 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 14-03-2016, 05:15 PM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 14-03-2016, 06:10 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 14-03-2016, 06:39 PM
Heads Up! - by LR Trotter - 14-03-2016, 07:43 PM
Heads Up! - by Tracy Riddle - 14-03-2016, 08:30 PM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 14-03-2016, 08:56 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 14-03-2016, 09:43 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 14-03-2016, 09:44 PM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 14-03-2016, 09:54 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 14-03-2016, 10:00 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 14-03-2016, 10:29 PM
Heads Up! - by Alan Ford - 14-03-2016, 10:31 PM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 14-03-2016, 11:14 PM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 14-03-2016, 11:28 PM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 15-03-2016, 12:37 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 15-03-2016, 01:08 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 15-03-2016, 01:22 AM
Heads Up! - by David Josephs - 15-03-2016, 01:26 AM
Heads Up! - by Albert Doyle - 15-03-2016, 01:53 AM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 15-03-2016, 02:16 AM
Heads Up! - by Michael Cross - 15-03-2016, 02:18 AM
Heads Up! - by Jim DiEugenio - 15-03-2016, 02:49 AM
Heads Up! - by Magda Hassan - 15-03-2016, 04:10 AM

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