23-10-2018, 03:06 AM
As in Joan Mellen's descriptions of the Centro-Mondo Commercialle, she quickly mentions ONCE that there were Nazis who were members. Then we go on and hear about all kinds of Italians who were involved.
What we do know about the Italian Centro-Mondo Commerciale was that it included
Count Junio Valerio Borghese who was closely involved with Skorzeny in commando raids during World War II. Also involved according to some sources was Hjalmar Schacht, Hitler's money man and worldwide post-World War II German activist likely involved with the worldwide Nazi movement.
We hear over and over the Clay Shaw was involved with Centro Mondo Commercialle but according to http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/...find-outi/
Poster Tommy Purvis, Clay Shaw was involved with the German I G Farben GAF case which was decided by LBJ in favor of private interests just two or three weeks after 11-22-63 by LBJ. Shaw was also a recruiter of Nazi scientists for General Charles Thrasher and dealt with Wernher von Braun.
We know that the CIA according to the memoirs of William Colby, spent millions and years in Italy trying to prevent the election of Communists and promoting conservative political parties.
But (as has been posted in detail on this site previously), there are elaborate scenarios of various Italians included in a sort of smorgasboard of activities which would try and "put a face" (a false face?) on the Centro Mondo Commercialle.
The only face that belongs on that activity as it relates to the JFK assassination is the involvement of Clay Shaw who was apparently involved on a lifelong basis with Nazis like von Braun and I G Farben chemical cartel, Hjalmar Schacht (Hitler's finance man) and Count Borghese who was very, very close to Otto Skorzeny.
And as you can read about in The Three Barons, veteran German expert T H Tetens describes "Centro" of Switzerland as a welfare fund for worldwide Nazi fugitives. We know that Centro was booted out of Italy because they were trying to re-establish the monarchy there. When that happened, they moved to Switzerland. IMHO, this is the same "Centro". Then they were booted to South Africa which was a dumping ground for General Reinhard Gehlen's agents like Bognan Stashynksy who was dumped there by Gehlen in 1967.
So, IMO any attempt to portray Centro as an Italian outfit and therefore imply that Italians (or many Italians) were involved in planning the JFK assassination is a convenient way to blow smoke all over Centro Mondo Commericalle. This could be viewed as an attempt to divert attention away from the Nazis who probably ran Centro along with Clay Shaw, Allen Dulles (who was CIA chief in the 1950's) and Otto Skorzeny (through his friend Count Borghese).
If anyone carefully reads the Skorzeny Papers and The Three Barons as well as many postings by Mr. Lemkin based on the work of Mae Brussel, there is no doubt that the JFK murder was the work of West Germany, a German-dominated NATO and worldwide Nazis like Skorzeny, Gestapochef Heinrich Muller, Martin Bormann and possibly even a very old Adolf Hitler living in South America someplace.
The above is so well documented and proven at this point, that I feel justified in questioning anyone who wants to blame some people in Italy or for that matter, to blame anyone except West Germany and the fugitive Nazis.
Maybe some people spin up artificial theories for fun and profit and thus, their stories are not intelligence disinformation. But there is no excuse after the publication of The Skorzeny Papers for anybody to blame anybody else except the Germans/Nazis as above described.
I feel that many critics have enough in depth knowledge of the JFK assassination to know all of the above. I don't think it's out of line to question some alternative theories coming from people who haven't really dealt (as far as I know) one way or the other with the Skorzeny-NATO-Gehlen-Dulles-Bormann-Adenauer line of reasoning. Many just ignore all this (which has been proven) and continue to spin up alternative theories. Why, I don't know.
I guess calling the blaming of miscellaneous Italians for the JFK murder intelligence disinformation it making an unjustified assumption. But I sincerely believe that the killers and plotters against JFK have been identified beyond doubt.
So inventing new theories at this point may not be intelligence disinformation. But in my opinion, it is legitimate to question why people do this but fail to answer to the main line theory which IMO is at this point, beyond any doubt, (especially if they plainly ignore and don't refute what is now the main-line theory of the JFK assassination).
Instead of just calling me names, and if you don't agree with the above, please explain to the readers how and why I am wrong about all of the above!
James Lateer
What we do know about the Italian Centro-Mondo Commerciale was that it included
Count Junio Valerio Borghese who was closely involved with Skorzeny in commando raids during World War II. Also involved according to some sources was Hjalmar Schacht, Hitler's money man and worldwide post-World War II German activist likely involved with the worldwide Nazi movement.
We hear over and over the Clay Shaw was involved with Centro Mondo Commercialle but according to http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/...find-outi/
Poster Tommy Purvis, Clay Shaw was involved with the German I G Farben GAF case which was decided by LBJ in favor of private interests just two or three weeks after 11-22-63 by LBJ. Shaw was also a recruiter of Nazi scientists for General Charles Thrasher and dealt with Wernher von Braun.
We know that the CIA according to the memoirs of William Colby, spent millions and years in Italy trying to prevent the election of Communists and promoting conservative political parties.
But (as has been posted in detail on this site previously), there are elaborate scenarios of various Italians included in a sort of smorgasboard of activities which would try and "put a face" (a false face?) on the Centro Mondo Commercialle.
The only face that belongs on that activity as it relates to the JFK assassination is the involvement of Clay Shaw who was apparently involved on a lifelong basis with Nazis like von Braun and I G Farben chemical cartel, Hjalmar Schacht (Hitler's finance man) and Count Borghese who was very, very close to Otto Skorzeny.
And as you can read about in The Three Barons, veteran German expert T H Tetens describes "Centro" of Switzerland as a welfare fund for worldwide Nazi fugitives. We know that Centro was booted out of Italy because they were trying to re-establish the monarchy there. When that happened, they moved to Switzerland. IMHO, this is the same "Centro". Then they were booted to South Africa which was a dumping ground for General Reinhard Gehlen's agents like Bognan Stashynksy who was dumped there by Gehlen in 1967.
So, IMO any attempt to portray Centro as an Italian outfit and therefore imply that Italians (or many Italians) were involved in planning the JFK assassination is a convenient way to blow smoke all over Centro Mondo Commericalle. This could be viewed as an attempt to divert attention away from the Nazis who probably ran Centro along with Clay Shaw, Allen Dulles (who was CIA chief in the 1950's) and Otto Skorzeny (through his friend Count Borghese).
If anyone carefully reads the Skorzeny Papers and The Three Barons as well as many postings by Mr. Lemkin based on the work of Mae Brussel, there is no doubt that the JFK murder was the work of West Germany, a German-dominated NATO and worldwide Nazis like Skorzeny, Gestapochef Heinrich Muller, Martin Bormann and possibly even a very old Adolf Hitler living in South America someplace.
The above is so well documented and proven at this point, that I feel justified in questioning anyone who wants to blame some people in Italy or for that matter, to blame anyone except West Germany and the fugitive Nazis.
Maybe some people spin up artificial theories for fun and profit and thus, their stories are not intelligence disinformation. But there is no excuse after the publication of The Skorzeny Papers for anybody to blame anybody else except the Germans/Nazis as above described.
I feel that many critics have enough in depth knowledge of the JFK assassination to know all of the above. I don't think it's out of line to question some alternative theories coming from people who haven't really dealt (as far as I know) one way or the other with the Skorzeny-NATO-Gehlen-Dulles-Bormann-Adenauer line of reasoning. Many just ignore all this (which has been proven) and continue to spin up alternative theories. Why, I don't know.
I guess calling the blaming of miscellaneous Italians for the JFK murder intelligence disinformation it making an unjustified assumption. But I sincerely believe that the killers and plotters against JFK have been identified beyond doubt.
So inventing new theories at this point may not be intelligence disinformation. But in my opinion, it is legitimate to question why people do this but fail to answer to the main line theory which IMO is at this point, beyond any doubt, (especially if they plainly ignore and don't refute what is now the main-line theory of the JFK assassination).
Instead of just calling me names, and if you don't agree with the above, please explain to the readers how and why I am wrong about all of the above!
James Lateer