Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE?

[Albert Doyle]

We also tend to view such "why on earth" questions through modern filters. No one involved in the conspiracy had any reason to believe that information would be as readily available as it is today. They controlled the story (Mauser simply shifts to Carcano, no muss no fuss) and believed that their control would continue.

There's a whole kaleidoscope of potential intel possibilities in running an Oswald double while Harvey was in Russia. You have to remember what the purpose of psychological warfare was. It was intended to mess with the minds of the enemy. Who was spooking whom and which double was working for whom was a gambit that could be played to unlimited possibilities by the 3D chess players at Langley. To more primitive minds this is simply "gibberish". To more sophisticated researchers it is the fingerprint and modus operandi of Intel coming into view. More honest researchers seeking the truth would see both Landesberg and Oswald had dopplegangers being used for spook purposes. They would admit FBI got caught trying to deliberately avoid any real investigation of them. ALL the references given by Rizutto were in New York City. ALL of the agent provocateur work and disruption of political events occurred in New York City. Yet these disingenuous deniers ask us straight-faced to accept that a major federal investigative bureau made an honest mistake when they went to the New Orleans Roosevelt Hotel to follow up on Rizutto's leads? Then with specific information that Earl Perry was from El Paso and directly connected to times and dates associated with SR Landesberg and Oswald that they made an honest mistake in going to the wrong Earl Perry in another state? I'd love to see the deniers try to get away with that in front of a jury. Lee had to keep busy while Harvey was in Russia.

When you point out that SH Landesberg lived at a distinctly different address than SR Landesberg you get an evasive answer that dwells on a typo rather than directly answering that this proves they were two different people. Also Golz is a pretty unimpeachable source who has provided good information about other critical assassination evidence. The preponderance of the evidence not only points towards SR Landesberg saying he regretted ever getting involved with Oswald but also following it up with an incriminating reaction when confronted. No, the deniers are not innocently pointing out flaws in Armstrong's quotes and citations. You can read their posts. They are openly attacking Armstrong and his entire body of research with an intent to totally discredit it. But if you look at the bulk of their claims it is basically typo-type nitpicking that tries to maximize the weakest flaw and uses it to avoid answering the vast majority of the evidence that speaks the opposite of what they so uncredibly contend. If I recall the CIA conspiracy theory document also instructed agents to pick out flaws in conspiracy theorists claims and emphasize them in order to denigrate their research and its reputation. These deniers flagrantly avoid answering your post, disappear for a couple of weeks, and then pop up with an attitude that this was already covered and they have credibility.


I'd bet the FBI photo showed SRL with a beard.

I'd bet there's an FBI document clearly stating Barry Gray told FBI L'eandes was a different person than Rizutto.


There are some very poor researchers out there who don't realize, as Michael points out, that the New York City Oswald associated with Landesberg was only relevant to operations at the time. Those operations could have involved infiltration of Russia for espionage purposes. Sheep-dipping of Oswald for penetration of extremist groups. Agent provocateur work. Assassination of Castro, etc. A good researcher would see that Oswald being involved in the assassination speaks of his being set-up and used as a patsy after being selected from the pool of already-known operatives. Any New York City doubles work would then be totally irrelevant. And the gist remains unanswered.


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