Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE?

[Jack White]

Magda, Robert made those statement's to Armstrong himself. He claimed to have met Marina on a few occasions...and lived in an apartment block were she also visited often....Remember Katya Ford's comments to the WC that Marina told her she had met Lee at a dance, which was not what happened...seemed she was mistaken Lee with a previous encounter with Robert...

CORRECTION posted at request of John Armstrong:

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Steve Duffy posted:

Magda, Robert made those statement's to Armstrong himself. He claimed to have met Marina on a few occasions...and lived in an apartment block were she also visited often....Remember Katya Ford's comments to the WC that Marina told her she had met Lee at a dance, which was not what happened...seemed she was mistaken Lee with a previous encounter with Robert...

DICK RUSSELL TOLD ME, YEARS AGO (LATE 1990'S), THAT HE WAS GOING TO INTERVIEW ROBERT IN CAPE COD, MA. I ASKED DICK TO ASK WEBSTER IF HE SPOKE WITH MARINA IN ENGLISH WHEN HE MET HER IN MOSCOW. WEBSTER TALKED ABOUT HIS MEETINGS WITH MARINA IN THE SOVIET UNION AND DISCUSSED HER ABILITY TO SPEAK ENGLISH. DICK RUSSELL THEN PASSED THIS INFORMATION TO ME. I HAVE NEVER SPOKEN WITH WEBSTER.

JOHN

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Jack,

Thanks for posting my "correction" with respect to Webster. And I have no knowledge concerning Webster's alleged claim and he and Marina were married.

I HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS CONCERNING THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT POSTED BY MR. ALBERT DOYLE. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT ANY OF MY RESEARCH MATERIALS IN OVER 8 YEARS, AND MY MEMORY IS NOT PERFECT.

"Any chance Marina photographed Harvey with the Carcano in the Backyard Photo and when Lee saw it he genuinely said it wasn't him?"

#1-I OWN AN IMPERIAL REFLEX CAMERA AND IT IS NOT EASY TO OPERATE. THE CAMERA MUST BE HELD JUST ABOVE WAIST LEVEL WITH BOTH HANDS. LOOKING DOWN, THE PHOTOGRAPHER CAN THEN SEE THE IMAGE THAT APPEARS IN THE VIEW FINDER ON TOP OF THE CAMERA. ANYONE WHO HAS EVER TAKEN A PHOTO WITH THE IMPERIAL REFLEX CAMERA WILL NOT FORGET THE EXPERIENCE. NOW, READ MARINA'S STATEMENT/TESTIMONY WHEREIN SHE DESCRIBED THE CAMERA THAT SHE USED TO TAKE THE BACKYARD PHOTOS. SHE SAID SIMPLY THAT SHE LOOKED THRU THE LENS/CAMERA AND TOOK THE PHOTO. CLEARLY, SHE NEVER TOOK A PHOTO WITH AN IMPERIAL REFLEX CAMERA AND CERTAINLY DID NOT USE THE IMPERIAL REFLEX TO PHOTOGRAPH HARVEY IN THE BACKYARD PHOTOS.

#2-IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE ASSASSINATION MARINA IDENTIFIED 3 CAMERAS THAT BELONGED TO LHO, BUT NONE WERE THE IMPERIAL REFLEX. THREE MONTHS LATER, IN FEB, 1964 THE IMPERIAL REFLEX APPEARED FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND WHO HAD THE CAMERA?? RUTH PAINE. AND WHERE DID SHE GET THE CAMERA?? FROM ROBERT OSWALD. AND HOW DID ROBERT OSWALD, WHO HAD NO CONTACT WITH HIS "BROTHER" (HARVEY) SINCE THANKSGIVING, 1962, COME INTO POSSESSION OF THE CAMERA ?? THE TRUTH WILL NEVER BE KNOWN. THIS IS BUT ONE INCIDENT, AMONG MANY, THAT POINTS TO ROBERT OSWALD'S INVOLVEMENT/KNOWLEDGE/CONCEALMENT ABOUT IMPORTANT FACTS CONCERNING HARVEY (no relation to Robert) AND LEE (Robert's brother), THE ASSASSINATION CONSPIRACY, AND MANIPULATION OF EVIDENCE. JOHN PIC (OSWALD'S HALF-BROTHER) WAS CORRECT WHEN HE TOLD THE FBI THAT IN HIS ESTIMATION ROBERT OSWALD KNOWS CONSIDERABLY MORE ABOUT LEE HARVEY OSWALD THAN HE DOES.

Marina would have good reason to tell Jesse Ventura she feared for her children's safety. In my opinion this would be more of an excuse to not talk rather than actually fearing for the safety of her children at this point. She's obviously so deep into this she can't talk without exposing the whole enchilada and bringing the whole thing down on herself. SHE IS STILL CONCEALING THE FACT THAT SHE WAS KGB.

I think people miss the obvious when Armstrong's Harvey and Lee evidence is out there and Marina is making no comment on it. MARINA KNEW ONLY HARVEY--SHE NEVER KNEW OR MET LEE OSWALD. BUT IT IS MARINA'S CHILDREN, AND ROBERT OSWALD'S CHILDREN, WHO HOLD THE KEY TO THE TRUTH ABOUT HARVEY OSWALD--WITH THEIR DNA. It's a bend in the prism of reality for these two things, Armstrong's theory, and Marina's silence, to exist together. A non-reality dimension that strains the cosmic order. A three legged stool where the third leg, that is government fidelity, isn't under the stool supporting anything. Yet they tell us to take a comfortable seat.