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Charlotte Iserbyt: Societies Secrets
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:
Ed Jewett Wrote:[quote=Lauren Johnson]EJ: Why are you including the Aquarian Gospel etc. in your reading list?

Quote:#1) ... a personal challenge in knowing my own beliefs and spirituality....

I remain in the church as a Lutheran in part because I have concluded there is no escaping hypocrisy. I prefer a community of hypocrites to none. Thanks for you brief bio. The key is that we share and recognize our hypocrisy.

I have ordered the first two vols of Sinister Forces. What the hell? Why not? I guess I feel like pissing off Seamus.

Quote:The issue comes to roost for me....

Along the lines of the direct contact with God, you might appreciate The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes. I don't know exactly why, but you might enjoy The Conquest of America by Tzvetan Todorov. He distinguishes religious murder (sacrifice) from massacre (atheistic murder). The birth of modernity is wrapped up in the latter. "...The conquistadors obeyed the rule of Ivan Karamazov: "everything is permitted." Far from the central government, far from royal law, all prohibitions give way, the social link, already loosened, snaps, revealing not a primitive nature, the beast sleeping in each of us, but a modern being, one with a great future in fact, restrained by no morality and inflicting death because and when he pleases." (p. 145)

Fascinating response, and thank you for it.

I shall make note of the two books you mention and look for them in good time. The idea of "everything is permitted, et al" resonates with the lowest-common-denominator theme of the secret societies "the ends justify the means". There is one variant, however, from Karamazov, it would seem, and that it this: rather than 'far from government', the idea that everything is permitted seems to have become invested in government here in the US, and there are many references and parallels to the role of secret societies inside government (especially its intelligence apparati).

in re: Sinister Forces, Volumes One and Three are where the most bang for the buck lie. Two is somehow weaker.

I share your conclusion that there is no escaping hypocrisy, save perhaps by worshipping alone and watching carefully for my own hypocrisy.

And there is the role of Allen Dulles, in his first foreign posting, in the "outing" of Protocols.

Quote:Mind saying a little more?


In re: the matter of Allen Dulles:

The book: http://www.amazon.com/Gentleman-Spy-Life...1558490442

The author: Peter Grose is an editor and specialist on the history of intelligence. Grose was an editor for the New York Times and Foreign Affairs. He held a position [Former Associate, International Security Program, 20042010; Former Research Fellow, International Security Program, 19972004] at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, where he completed his historical work on international insurance and published a book on deregulation of the global electricity industry, Power to People. Other works by Grose include Operation Rollback: America's Secret War Behind the Iron Curtain.

The author's papers: The Peter Grose Papers document Grose's research on Allen Dulles and the Soviet Union. The papers include writings, subject files consisting of research notes and photocopied sources, as well as a small number of photographs. Of note is the Central Intelligence Agency's declassified history of Allen Dulles's tenure at the CIA.

http://diglib.princeton.edu/ead/getEad?eadid=MC227&kw=

See also "The Council on Foreign Relations from 1921 to 1996" by
PETER GROSE: http://www.cfr.org/about/history/cfr/

The prologue of the book "Gentleman Spy" tells the tale of the new third secretary of the American Embassy, Allen Welsh Dulles, and his appearance in mourning overcoat (his first assignment for the government of the United States) at the church of St. Stephen's in November 1916 for the solemn funeral ceremony of Franz Josef I. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Joseph_I_of_Austria ] The last paragraph of the prologue:

"Deception as a way of life was strange to a young man reared in the manse of a Presbyterian minister. But over a long life in the chancelleries and war rooms of powerful nations, the reality grew upon him that the means for shaping the world's destiny might be manifest or they might be covert."

His first diplomatic post, under Frederic Penfield, "involved processing passport applications, scrutinizing visa qualifications, visiting the countries nationals in jail (not to be considered but to ascertain that legal procedures were being employed and the State Department protected against congressional or public outcries), and making burial arrangements for American citizens who died in the area.… Settling in, Alan succumbed to what the venerable Talleyrand considered the supreme vice of diplomacy, an excess of zeal. In trying to sort out the transnational finances of the Rev. Francis Xavier Gneilinsky of St. Louis, working at a parish in Austria, Alan sent priest a copy of an explanatory telegram that has come from Washington. An embassy superior properly chastised the novice third secretary: "don't transmit copies of official documents to private persons." The correct procedure was to retype in paraphrase. When Alan then sheepishly asked the priest to return the offending document, it was brought to the embassy by hand and placed in an envelope at the reception desk. Allen's bureaucratic tormentor noticed that the envelope had the embassy seal; Allen was sharply censured for permitting an outsider to use official stationary."

snip

"Allen's first covert action was a fiasco. It started at [the home of his friend, a noted expatriate biologist, Henry Haviland Field] and the equally congenial residence in Geneva of George D Herron, another American academic, a friend of Pres. Wilson's. Both of these academics to visitors from the central powersGermans, Austrians, and Hungarianswho maintained the fiction that day, like their "old American friends," were mere private citizens with no official status. The protestations were necessary, early in 1918 several of these cutouts came to Switzerland on an extremely sensitive mission: Emperor Karl of Austria, the recent successor to Franz Joseph, wanted to make a separate peace with United States.… Alan arranged a meeting between Heron and Julius Meinl, who then asked that a responsible American receive an important visitor from Vienna. In the game of go-between's, cut-outs serve other cut-outs, layer upon layer. Allen remembered the name of the important Austrian from the guest lists at [his grandfather's home*] before the war; Heinrich Lammasch, scholar of international law, boyhood tutor to Emperor Karl, a leading Viennese liberal who was opposed to the strong pro-German influence upon the Habsburg Empire. A "casual" meeting between Herron and Lammasch was set up for February 2 at a secluded château outside Bern owned by a self-exiled German industrialist.

Allen [was] naïve and imagining that [this] emerging scheme could be kept secret… [since] efforts at security were primitive.… The notion of a separate peace between the United States and Austria-Hungary were stillborn.… Alan Wood have occasion to use the same tools, cut outs upon cutouts, two decades later under the same cover of Swiss neutrality. The next time he would be more successful but criticized even more for the moral ambiguities of secret bargaining between forces of war."

In the summer of 1918, "Allen was devising a novel plan, and he made bold to present it in a personal letter to Uncle Bert [Secretary of State Robert Lansing]… Why not assemble a group of scholars to study "the problems of nationalities and his term and where justice lies in the various claims of the European races and nations?" Allen wrote. He could not have known how grimly his innocent suggestion would be received. To his credit, Lansing had already realized that the ideas his president was expounding for the future world order were not based on adequate knowledge.… Independently of the Secretary of State, and surely without knowledge of Allen's modest proposal, Wilson assigned to the academic community that task of assembling proposals for the postwar settlement, under the coordination of his trusted aide, Col. Edward M House." One of them, the group's secretary and thus a central recruiter and organizer, was Walter Lippmann. Lippman however tired of the sterile isolation of the academic group and jumped at the offer to become an Army intelligence officer. "From a base in Paris he sought out American officials who might help them, [who might be] sympathetic to [his] ideas for distributing propaganda among the newly liberated peoples of central Europe.… No time elapsed before Lippman's sharp eyes noted the reports of Allen Dulles and his colleagues in Bern on the collapse of the central powers; these dispatches stood out for the clarity and insight that the open brackets academic inquiry] was always seeking. "In Bern, a group of the very best young men in the diplomatic service did contrive to act as a source of information." Lippmann resolved to keep his eye on Dulles.

With the end of the war in sight, though before the front lines had gone quiet, Col. House himself sailed for Europe, under destroyer escort, as Pres. Wilson's advanced man in organizing the peace settlement. His first meetings in Paris with Lippman and other Americans persuaded House that the collection of current intelligence was an urgent priority; if the conventional diplomats had little interest in pursuing it, the task certainly could not be left to the scholars… who were far from the scene. House's telegram, "Secret for the president and Secretary of State," on November 8, three days before the armistice, marked the end of the innocence shown by the Army Chief of Staff the year before and open up a new era in American intelligence.

"We are getting a massive misinformation respecting present conditions in Austria, Bohemia and the Ukraine, practically all of which is being provided by the English, French and Italians. We have no American sources of information. The reports received are… colored by the self-interest of the persons furnishing them. I regarded as exceedingly important that we send it once to these countries agents who will be in a position to furnish us with accurate and unbiased information… this matter I believe is most urgent."

The problem was simple for House to state, but the presidential adviser's musings posed more problems than he had envisaged. In 1918 the United States government had no "agents." [The] military intelligence officers were not up to the job of political analysis; the diplomats, who were, spurned clandestine line intelligence work as unseemly. And, once the right individuals were found to serve as agents, should they travel and interview as government officials or under some innocuous cover? What level of personal risk would be acceptable and necessary for the tasks of gathering intelligence?

An answer readily presented itself, at least two Col. House's satisfaction.… Wilson had named Herbert Hoover, a strong-willed mining engineer from Iowa, to direct postwar relief and rehabilitation efforts in the reverie societies of central Europe. Then 44 years old, Hoover had built a spectacular reputation for getting difficult jobs done during his wartime relief service in Belgium. House cornered Hoover, passing through Paris, and learned of his plan to send relief teams across central Europe. House conceived the idea, though he did not share it with Hoover, of insinuating intelligence agents, complete with code clerks, stenographers, and interpreters, into those relief teams. It was an ingenious idea, novel for the time, and fraught with sensitive aspects that would raise practical, ethical, and bureaucratic hackles."



In Paris in 1919, after the printed draft of the peace treaty had been prepared and presented, after the formal signing ceremony at Versailles, "with the senior diplomats gone, their juniors assumed even greater responsibility for the lingering problems of a Europe reborn. Once again Alan found himself concerned with the stateless Jewish population. Circulating clandestinely through the diplomatic efforts of Paris was a mysterious tract called The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, purporting to expose a Jewish plot to rule the world, and some serious people took the matter seriously. Allen argued before conference committees against the view that the Jews deserved national rights just like other ethnic minorities. "If we endeavor to set up [the Jews] up as a privileged community," he asserted, "they will be subject to oppression on the part of the people who are not ready for so radically change."

Posted to Berlin after the war, another new friend for Dulles during this period "had a different and more direct impact on Allen's later life. Gerhart von Schulze-Gaevernitz was a respected backbencher in the Weimar coalition. and eminent professor of economics at Freiburg, he was intimately connected in the financial and industrial circles of both Britain and Germany; even during the war he had risked outspoken criticism of the kaiser's foreign policies. In his world vision he was a protégé of Cecil Rhodes: Germany, Britain, and the United States, destined to global economic leadership, needed to find a basis for political cooperation so as to "preserve the dominance of Western European civilization." The wisdom of aging intellectuals seem to appeal to Allen. He spent hours discussing the world of ideas and politics with the old professor, just as he had with Henry Haviland Field in Bern. Von Schulze-Gaevernitz too had a son whom he thought Allen might find congenial, but young Gero was off at university preparing for a career in international banking, so they did not need at this time." [During World War Two, Gero traveled frequently between Switzerland and Germany where he had many connections and later served as the host at his own villa for secret meetings between Dulles and Karl Wullf and other Nazi SS generals during Operation Sunrise. His papers are at the Hoover Institution archives at Stanford.] [See http://books.google.com/books?id=WQSa8yk...&q&f=false ] [US Intelligence and the Nazis, by Breitman, Goda, Naftali and Wolfe http://www.amazon.com/U-S-Intelligence-N...0521852684 ]

" Almost overlooked in Allen's experience of the revolution [in the young Weimar Republic] was the fact that his brother Foster happened to be traveling throughout Germany during the week of the Kapp putsch in pursuit of investment opportunities for Sullivan and Cromwell's clients.… At the height of the tension, Foster went off to meet a young economist who was full of ideas to attract American financial support for the German future. His name was Dr. Hjalmar Schact [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjalmar_Schacht ], and from that encounter grew a relationship between American investors in German industry that endured well into the 1930s.... "

In 1920, after he returned home to Mary Martha Clover Todd, Dulles returned with his new wife on the Orient express to Constantinople for his new posting to a nation in transition from the former Ottoman Empire and, at that time, under the direct rule of the victorious allies.

"Constantinople had become the Eastern entrepot [ port, city, or other center to which goods are brought for import and export] for the ruins of old Russia, with tens of thousands of refugees from the Bolshevik revolution and from the civil war raging in the newly independent states of the Caucasus to the North, Georgia and Armenia..... The month before Allen and Clover arrived, the refugee population was swollen with the arrival of the defeated Cossack Army of Baron Gen. Peter Nikolayevich Wrangel, one of the last of the White armies to hold out against the Bolshevik advances.…" Clover and her new friend Olga Wrangel, the general's wife, "brought solace to the refugee camps on Gallipoli clothing, cigarettes, and Russian magazines. These expeditions caused no small alarm at the High Commission; the ranking officers pleaded with the new diplomatic secretaries wife to enlist a chauffeur-driven official car for her errands of mercyprecisely the display that Clover Todd Dulles did not want."

"Constantinople was entirely isolated from direct contact with Soviet Russia", Allen cabled Washington after the fall of Tiflis (Tbilsi), " as no ships have arrived from Bolshevik ports for days, and contact to Georgia and Armenia was now broken." Then he reported a singular discovery, that wireless radio communications between Moscow and Bolshevik outposts could be intercepted by shortwave receivers on Adm. Bristol's flagship in the sea of Marmara. Allen was quick to exploit this novel intelligence source, and over the next months he supplied Washington with detailed information about the Bolsheviks in Russia and the Caucasus, including their designs on the capitals of Europe and even South America. This was an innovative means of intelligence collection, astonishing (and not a little unsettling) to conventional styles of diplomatic reporting. ... Between shortwave traffic and General Wrangel's own intelligence nets, he pieced together a long Bolshevik report sent secretly to the Kremlin about how the world could be prepared for revolution. On July 2 he transmitted to Washington the text of a speech delivered at a Moscow party meeting. He pulled off the air a dispatch from the Bolshevik agent in the Western Hemisphere, reporting him glowing tones the "possibility of arousing a communist movement in South America."…[and, it is noted later, he was unafraid of and perhaps accustomed to taking donkey rides up the steep cliffs of the mountain on the island of Prinkipo in the sea of Marmara to the old Monastery of St. George.]

"One spring day in 1921, a prominent member of the Russian émigré community approached Philip Graves [the Constantinople correspondent of the Times of London] with a puzzling book. The Russian had purchased it several months before as part of a collection from a former officer of the czar's political police, the Okhrana. Browsing through his new acquisitions, this learned Russian had noticed something strange about one volume in French; its contents reminded him of the mysterious anti-Semitic tract The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which purported to show how leading Jews of the world were staking out a plan to seize power from secular governments for their own profit. The title page had been torn out of the French book; there was no evidence of the author or date of publication. But as the Russian intellectual compared the texts, Graves told Allen, he confirmed that the tattered French book and The Protocols tracked closely. If the French publication could be shown to predate The Protocols, the anti-Semitic tract would be exposed as plagiary.

Allen understood immediately what Graves was telling him; clandestine copies of The Protocols had circulated at the Peace Conference in 1919. What remained unknown to the diplomats in Paris was the provenance of this explosive document, who the ominous conspirators were, and when the alleged plot had beenor would belaunched. The year before Graves and Alan talked, the times had taken the specter of a world Jewish conspiracy seriously enough to ask, "Have we been struggling these tragic years to blow up and extirpate the secret organization of German world dominion only to find it beneath him at it another, more dangerous because more secret? Have we escaped a "Pax Germanica" only to fall into a "Pax Judaica"?" "The fact of the plagiarism has now been conclusively established," declared the times, "and the legend may be allowed to pass into oblivion."

Allen was not so confident that the matter would disappear; the deep-seated anti-Semitic impulses that made people inclined to believe such a fanciful document as The Protocols would not be assuaged merely by newspaper articles. With Graves help, he prepared his own dispatch to the State Department, asking that the United States government join in denouncing the anti-Semitic myth. Allen informed Washington of two points that Graves had omitted from his reports to the times. First, the anonymous Russian gentleman who originally spotted the evidence had a particular motive for approaching the great British newspaper: not himself a Jew, but long troubled by the anti-Semitism of czarist politics, he believed that the disclosure would carry more conviction if it emerged from an impeccable "Christian" source. Had it come out as a result of investigations then underway by Jewish organizations, it might have been dismissed as self-serving. Second, as a poignant footnote to the whole saga, the Russian refused to accept any payment beyond the trivial part purchase of a secondhand book, even after the importance of his discovery became known. Learning of the refugee's poverty, The Times attempted to compensate him properly; he was finally prevailed upon to accept a "loan" of several hundred pounds, and the newspaper never asked for repayment.

How to persuade Washington to act on what he suspected the diplomatic establishment would consider an irrelevant parochial matter? Allen first called attention to The Times's published articles. The American Embassy in London weighed in by dispatching to the State Department a specially reprinted collection of the Graves articles, more impressive than cuttings from a newspaper. Allen then supplied his additional information and asked the department to consult the Library of Congress, where the original French volume might be found, and perhaps other evidence. If all this were made public by the United States government, it would add weight to the disclosure's of a British newspaper.

Allen's main dispatch read reached Washington on September 22, and the London reprint arrived two weeks later. Both made the rounds of the relevant divisionsNear Eastern affairs, Western European affairs, Russian affairs, and finally the office of the undersecretary of state. The newspaper articles were promptly filed; Allen's request that the State Department help in denouncing it as anti-Semitic fraud languished in the various offices for no less than seven months. When that dispatch, too, was finally sent to the files, on May 23, 1922, there was no notation that anyone in the Department of State had seen fit to take any action on the matter."


So here you have a fellow who was instrumentally involved, in the course of his career...

* as a corporate lawyer at Sullivan and Cromwell ["Sullivan and Cromwell thrived on its cartels and collusion with the new Nazi regime," say the firm's chroniclers]
a director of the J. Henry Schroder bank which financed Hitler [see http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/federa...ve.shtml];
* intimately tied in to a network of diplomats including his brother, his sister, his uncle, his father and his wife (whose cousin served in Naval Intelligence);
* who handled visa applications in his first formal job;
* who was the first secretary for the Council on Foreign Relations (an outgrowth of the Illuminati-driven Rhodes' circles) in 1927;
* who worked with "Wild Bill" Donovan at the office of the Coordinator of Information which was set up in Room 3603 of Rockefeller Center and who, later, with the assistance of Frank Wisner and others helped overthrow the governments of Guatemala for his legal clients and Iran for his Rockefeller interests (his brother was related by marriage);
* who has been described "as one of the worst traitors in American history, an economic version of Benedict Arnold";
* who collaborated on two books to defuse American isolationism "in an increasingly interdependent international system";
* assisted in the "de-Nazification" of Germany;
* played an active role in the formulation of the legislation that became the National Security Act of 1947 [whose organizations have been noticeably involved in manufacturing provenance out of thin air (alchemy)]; and
* personally oversaw Operation Mockingbird, the CIA's campaign to infiltrate and influence the media
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird ].

And who, while immersed in the intrigues of global intelligence and diplomacy at the crossroads of Bolshevism and the world of European secret societies, had an anonymous source get his material printed (for a fee) to cover the tracks of the very people with whom he continued to do business before and during the war (Wall Street, Hitler's bank, the Bank of International Settlements, the elite wealthy players who were the hidden generation of the Rothschild interests) by suggesting that the document/satire/plagiarism of a plan for global domination was shown to be false.

And the agency he created continues to play with them.

"In a secretly classified memo dated 12/9/65, the agency discusses manipulating the gold market with central banks and the need for more "liquidity" because of the dollar's perceived weakness at the time.) Says the memo (see pages 124-125) "our strategy is to supplement gold and dollars with a new international asset, special drawing rights (SDR)." [Crisis By Design: The Untold Story of the Global Financial Coup and What You Can Do About It, written by John Truman Wolfe, published by Roberts Ross Publishing of Englewood Colorado and Los Angeles California.]
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
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