08-05-2009, 12:43 AM
David: When the 82nd and the 101st Air Borne held maneuvers in Honduras in 1985 (or there abouts) after the maneuvers were over some of the weapons and hardware was declared as damaged beyond repair in air drops and other "accidents " in the field. The record stated that these damaged an unrepairable hardware was destroyed. This hardware was taken of the GAO books. As a result the weapons, helicopter parts and 185 stinger missiles, as well as other material was shipped out of Honduras, by CIA operatives and pilots, to offshore Panama. This was before the Panama invasion and the overthrow of Noriega.
After the Panama war and the PDF was disbanded, some of these weapons were stolden from the security staff assigned to guard these weapons ect, however most were stolden or bought from the security teams of the "Old Guard of the PDF", by various factions of the Ocha and Escobar drug cartels and re routed to Colombia and some through Merxico to various associates of the cartels operating inside Mexico with the PRI and to some extent the DFS parties of Mexican politices.. (Agent field reports classified from DEA agent KiKI Camerena)
(This became known as "The Mexico CIA Thing" of which DEA agent KiKI Camarena found out about in his Mexico DEA field work as well as the private commercial use of C-130 cargo aircraft reg. to the Forest Service of the United States. This material was flown from Santa Elena Costa Rico and Panama to Columbia and Mexico. ( ref;toshplumlee.info Buedia murders and Susan Baldin and Hector Berliez Secret DEA report)
Today some of those old "Hard" weapons are showing up in Mexico in various drug cartel's and their gangs of young Mexicans. The ATF has many complete field reports on this but the old administration of Bush has not or did not authorized the ATF to press Mexico for the ID numbers on these weapons so as to cross check them to the old GAO and DCS reports. Their reason? It could harm relations with Mexico and damage the on going negotiations with Mexico over NFTA and other programs in progress and those pending agreements.
I think you can follow the rest of the story as to why we and the Mexican Army are "out-gunned" today... and too, the ATF field operatives, as well as the Mexican Army, has uncovered some of these misplace US Military weapons there were taken off the GAO books. Some of these lost weapons have been found, by accident, here in the United States in a Few Pawn Shops and a few Gun Shows, but that is only less than one percent of the missing weapons from the 1985 era. The ATF and Homeland Security will not declassifie these field reports. Now we will see what President Obama does with this highly classified information.
On a side note a few years ago there was a shoot out in LA at a bank hold-up. The bandits had automatice weapons and body armour.. those were traced back to the Honduras missing weapons of the 82nd Airborne. This information was never released by ATF on the Administration at the time.
After the Panama war and the PDF was disbanded, some of these weapons were stolden from the security staff assigned to guard these weapons ect, however most were stolden or bought from the security teams of the "Old Guard of the PDF", by various factions of the Ocha and Escobar drug cartels and re routed to Colombia and some through Merxico to various associates of the cartels operating inside Mexico with the PRI and to some extent the DFS parties of Mexican politices.. (Agent field reports classified from DEA agent KiKI Camerena)
(This became known as "The Mexico CIA Thing" of which DEA agent KiKI Camarena found out about in his Mexico DEA field work as well as the private commercial use of C-130 cargo aircraft reg. to the Forest Service of the United States. This material was flown from Santa Elena Costa Rico and Panama to Columbia and Mexico. ( ref;toshplumlee.info Buedia murders and Susan Baldin and Hector Berliez Secret DEA report)
Today some of those old "Hard" weapons are showing up in Mexico in various drug cartel's and their gangs of young Mexicans. The ATF has many complete field reports on this but the old administration of Bush has not or did not authorized the ATF to press Mexico for the ID numbers on these weapons so as to cross check them to the old GAO and DCS reports. Their reason? It could harm relations with Mexico and damage the on going negotiations with Mexico over NFTA and other programs in progress and those pending agreements.
I think you can follow the rest of the story as to why we and the Mexican Army are "out-gunned" today... and too, the ATF field operatives, as well as the Mexican Army, has uncovered some of these misplace US Military weapons there were taken off the GAO books. Some of these lost weapons have been found, by accident, here in the United States in a Few Pawn Shops and a few Gun Shows, but that is only less than one percent of the missing weapons from the 1985 era. The ATF and Homeland Security will not declassifie these field reports. Now we will see what President Obama does with this highly classified information.
On a side note a few years ago there was a shoot out in LA at a bank hold-up. The bandits had automatice weapons and body armour.. those were traced back to the Honduras missing weapons of the 82nd Airborne. This information was never released by ATF on the Administration at the time.