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Woolwich London terror attack?
#11
Peter Lemkin Wrote:It was a brutal murder - bestial - even if the target was a soldier. But haven't you heard, Magda, there is no more 'ordinary crime' only terrorism and crimes against the state. I sense these two men were not set up for this....this is truly 'blowback' in its most bestial and horrid form.
I agree. It looks like the real deal. And particularly brutal. But then the same thing happens to victims of domestic violence far too often as well. Cars used as weapons and handy kitchen implements not used for cooking purposes.


Peter Lemkin Wrote:Nothing learned and the World not a safer nor better place. The same does happen in far off places unseen and at the sharp end of a drone missile or bomb, etc. Hacking a person to death with a butchers cleaver is especially brutal - the end result is the same. No one in power in the 'West' is even thinking - let alone acting - toward or for Peace; instead it is all about endless war with an unseen enemy that is everywhere.
Hacking a person to death is just a bit more in your face and sort of honest in a very warped sort of way. Most people don't have the stomach for that. Pushing buttons from a remore location targeting remote targets on a compter screen only to clock off after the shift and go and have a few drinks with the mates then go home and play computer games is to be detached from reality of one's actions. People don't even see their meat killed these days. It is all presented in neat plastic trays detached from the process of killing the animal it once was. So, it is a tough ask to get soldiers to do the hand to hand killing these days but the profits remain high in the game of drones.

Peter Lemkin Wrote:How come no one is attacking Costa Rica and doing 'terrorist' actions there? Simple, they harm no one - they don't even have a military.
One day borders wont matter. And there will just be people. Fellow human beings.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#12
It's quite sickening to see all the talking heads popping up on TV claiming their moment in the sun, Boris who was barely suppressing a smile when he talked his usual bollocks, and the slim ex MP John Reid pontificating, and many others have lifted the lids on their day coffins and flinched at the daylight just to get their faces on tv...
:fullofit:
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#13
I suppose a question that needs to be asked is if or how the perpetrators knew the victim was military? Wearing a Help for Heroes t shirt doesn't mean he was military but, rather, a supporter of the military. My assumption here is that this killing wasn't random - that there was a definite purpose to it?
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#14
Suspects wanted to get caught:

Watch the BBC News clip HERE.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#15
From FT.com:

Quote:The two suspected killers of a soldier murdered in Woolwich on Wednesday were known to Britain's security services before the attack, Whitehall officials have told the Financial Times.


The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#16
David Guyatt Wrote:It's quite sickening to see all the talking heads popping up on TV claiming their moment in the sun, Boris who was barely suppressing a smile when he talked his usual bollocks, and the slim ex MP John Reid pontificating, and many others have lifted the lids on their day coffins and flinched at the daylight just to get their faces on tv...
:fullofit:
I heard Cameron on the news here tonight. :vomit: Do they realise how awful and fake they sound?
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#17
Allow me to amend my typo.

John Reid is not slim. John Reid is slimy. Imo.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#18
Claims of western governments doing the exact same thing in foreign countries will be used to subtly associate anti-War On Terror persons with the actual butchering terrorists themselves.
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#19
Posted for discussion purposes only because the anomaly strikes me as being curious.

The footage of the killer with bloodied hands:



The same footage, but the killer's hands are not bloody:

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vc62gkSN8W0&bpctr= 1369382412[/video]
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#20
I am aware of the sensitivity of this subject and ask that readers understand that I am posting the following in the spirit of understanding.

Picture of killer after the murder:

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And

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And

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Butchery has just taken place, with the victim's head decapitated by a meat cleaver.

No blood on the clothes of either perp is visible. No blood pooling around the body of the victim is visible.

The volume and spray of blood jetting from the arteries in the neck would've, surely, resulted in blood everywhere - on their clothes, on the ground around the body?

The only blood visible is on the hands of the main perpetrator, but even that does not seem to be entirely true?

What's going on here?


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The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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