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[URL="http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg-Oliver%20Stone%20Original/Stone%20Oliver%20Movie%20Script%201st%20Draft/Script%2001.pdf"]
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg-...t%2001.pdf[/URL]
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Magda - thanks.
There are several threads on DPF exploring the revealing relationship between movie scripts and the film as finally released. Many thanks for this script of Stone's JFK.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
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Magda Hassan Wrote:[URL="http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg-Oliver%20Stone%20Original/Stone%20Oliver%20Movie%20Script%201st%20Draft/Script%2001.pdf"]
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg-...t%2001.pdf[/URL]
followed the link and nada! Just an open, blank, black window with a cite 'loading', then nothing.
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David Healy Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:[URL="http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg-Oliver Stone Original/Stone Oliver Movie Script 1st Draft/Script 01.pdf"]
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg-Oliver Stone Original/Stone Oliver Movie Script 1st Draft/Script 01.pdf[/URL]
followed the link and nada! Just an open, blank, black window with a cite 'loading', then nothing.
David David, I had the exact same thing happen. I thought there was some problem with the link too but there wasn't. It just take quite a while to load. I just went away to do some thing else and came back to it and there it was fully down loaded and I was able to read it all.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:David Healy Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:[URL="http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg-Oliver Stone Original/Stone Oliver Movie Script 1st Draft/Script 01.pdf"]
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg-Oliver Stone Original/Stone Oliver Movie Script 1st Draft/Script 01.pdf[/URL]
followed the link and nada! Just an open, blank, black window with a cite 'loading', then nothing.
David David, I had the exact same thing happen. I thought there was some problem with the link too but there wasn't. It just take quite a while to load. I just went away to do some thing else and came back to it and there it was fully down loaded and I was able to read it all.
thank you Magda... I'll give it another shot. 
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David Healy Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:David Healy Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:[URL="http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg-Oliver Stone Original/Stone Oliver Movie Script 1st Draft/Script 01.pdf"]
[/URL]http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg-Oliver Stone Original/Stone Oliver Movie Script 1st Draft/Script 01.pdf
followed the link and nada! Just an open, blank, black window with a cite 'loading', then nothing.
David David, I had the exact same thing happen. I thought there was some problem with the link too but there wasn't. It just take quite a while to load. I just went away to do some thing else and came back to it and there it was fully down loaded and I was able to read it all.
thank you Magda... I'll give it another shot. Yeah, definitely worth the wait. It's a great read and annotations too :thumbsup:
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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David Healy Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:David Healy Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:[URL="http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg-Oliver Stone Original/Stone Oliver Movie Script 1st Draft/Script 01.pdf"]
[/URL]http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg-Oliver Stone Original/Stone Oliver Movie Script 1st Draft/Script 01.pdf
followed the link and nada! Just an open, blank, black window with a cite 'loading', then nothing.
David David, I had the exact same thing happen. I thought there was some problem with the link too but there wasn't. It just take quite a while to load. I just went away to do some thing else and came back to it and there it was fully down loaded and I was able to read it all.
thank you Magda... I'll give it another shot.
Set it going David, then go to that saloon and order a long cool beer. BY the time you navigate your way home afterwards it'll be waiting there for you.
Whether or not your eyes remain focused enough to read it is another question... :drink:
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I haven't yet attempted to download it with my slow connection. I'm guessing the annotations are probably Weisberg's angry scribblings about how inaccurate the script is. His archives are filled with half-finished manuscripts attacking other researchers for "stealing" his work or getting things wrong. I think his many health problems during his last years made him harder to get along with. RIP Harold.
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Tracy Riddle Wrote:I haven't yet attempted to download it with my slow connection. I'm guessing the annotations are probably Weisberg's angry scribblings about how inaccurate the script is. His archives are filled with half-finished manuscripts attacking other researchers for "stealing" his work or getting things wrong. I think his many health problems during his last years made him harder to get along with. RIP Harold.
Somewhere [here or EF?], long ago Jack white and I [who had both had exchanges with Weisberg] spoke to his brilliance, tenacity, and curmudgeonness. It was just him. A grumpy genius who solved the case long ago; however, not the only one. :gossip:
On the script, I haven't read it yet. Brings up bad memories. At the time of its being written I was contracted to do a book on Plumlee's life. I was lead writer, Marrs was co-author. The Plumlee story was considered, briefly, by the Stone 'staff' - and he was interviewed [and rejected] - as were many other sub-stories/theories of the JFK assassination. They obviously, at the beginning, had only a vague idea of what they were going to 'run' with and what not. My own very personal grip was that they bought Marrs right out from under my Project....I can't blame Jim - it gave him lots of publicity, renown, and more money than I could have offered. It did, however, upset my apple cart at the time. Sklar was, I believe, the woman who made most decisions with Stone and later with Marrs on what was and what was not kept in the film. Prouty was consulted a lot too. Given the complexity of the case, they did a decent job for the Public Mind. It is not a film for a researcher and Stone and his staff didn't devote enough time to fully understand all the complexities of the case. He's a filmmaker, not a researcher. The reaction and propaganda against/personal attacks to/for his JFK film [which started well before anyone knew it was coming out] 'educated' him more than his research about it, IMHO.
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