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Kennedy's attempt to defuse the Space Race
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http://www.prouty.org/271.html

BTW, the Russians loved this idea, NASA hated it.
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By then the Soviets had done it all almost anyway but it was a sensible gesture of co-operation by JFK and would have led to a better earth for us all. Keeping space de-militarised is important for all humans. It belongs to no one.
Jim DiEugenio Wrote:http://www.prouty.org/271.html

BTW, the Russians loved this idea, NASA hated it.

After Kennedy died, the Russians essentially got out of the moon race.
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No reason why this illuminating document cannot be posted here:


Quote:DRAFT OF NATIONAL SECURITY ACTION MEMORANDUM NO. 271

CONFIDENTIAL

November 12, 1963
NATIONAL SECURITY ACTION MEMORANDUM NO. 271

MEMORANDUM FOR

The Administrator, National Aeronautics and Space Administration

SUBJECT: Cooperation with the USSR on Outer Space Matters

I would like you to assume personally the initiative and central responsibility within the Government for the development of a program of substantive cooperation with the Soviet Union in the field of outer space, including the development of specific technical proposals. I assume that you will work closely with the Department of State and other agencies as appropriate.

These proposals should be developed with a view of their possible discussion with the Soviet Union as a direct outcome of my September 20 proposal for broader cooperation between the United States and the USSR in outer space, including cooperation in lunar landing programs. All proposals or suggestions originating within the Government relating to this general subject will be referred to you for your consideration and evaluation.

In addition to developing substantive proposals, I expect that you will assist the Secretary of State in exploring problems of procedure and timing connected with holding discussions with the Soviet Union and in proposing for my consideration the channels which would be most desirable from our point of view. In this connection the channel of contact developed by Dr. Dryden between NASA and the Soviet Academy of Sciences has been quite effective, and I believe that we should continue to utilize it as appropriate as a means of continuing the dialogue between the scientists of both counties.

I would like an interim report on the progress of our planning by December 15.

cc:
Mr. Bundy
Mr. Johnson
NSC Files



Information copies to: Chairman, National Aeronautics and Space Council
Secretary of State
Secretary of Defense
Director of Central Intelligence
Chairman, Atomic Energy Commission
Director, National Science Foundation
Special Assistant to the President for Science and Technology
Director, Bureau of the Budget
Director, U.S. Information Agency
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Jan Klimkowski Wrote:No reason why this illuminating document cannot be posted here:


Quote:DRAFT OF NATIONAL SECURITY ACTION MEMORANDUM NO. 271

CONFIDENTIAL

November 12, 1963
NATIONAL SECURITY ACTION MEMORANDUM NO. 271

MEMORANDUM FOR

The Administrator, National Aeronautics and Space Administration

SUBJECT: Cooperation with the USSR on Outer Space Matters
..... In this connection the channel of contact developed by Dr. Dryden between NASA and the Soviet Academy of Sciences has been quite effective, and I believe that we should continue to utilize it as appropriate as a means of continuing the dialogue between the scientists [edit by MH] of both counties.

I would like an interim report on the progress of our planning by December 15.

Well, looks this was left in the pending tray and buried. Bundy clearly never followed this up.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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I amended that first post since its not true the Russians abandoned their entire moon effort.

BUt I should add that after Kennedy's speech, there was an amendment in the house to make sure no money would go to NASA if the RUssians shared the program.

And its true, that once LBJ took over NSAM 271 was dead and buried.

Tom Hanks favorite, the Moon Doggle, was on.

If only he would go there.
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