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Just like clockwork Netanyahu is off to Washington to nip this in the bud.

Quote:Netanyahu heads to America to challenge Iranian charm blitz



By Agence France-Presse
Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:55 EDT


Topics: benjamin netanyahu ♦ iran ♦ Iranian President Hassan Rouhani


​Israeli premier Benjamin Netanyahu left for New York early Sunday in a bid to challenge perceptions that Iran under its new president poses less of a nuclear threat than before.
"I intend to tell the truth in the face of the sweet talk and charm offensive of Iran" Israeli public radio quoted him as saying as he boarded the plane at Tel Aviv's Ben Gurion airport.
"Telling the truth at this time is essential for world peace and security and, of course, for Israel's security."
Earlier in the week he described Iranian President Hassan Rouhani's conciliatory speech to the United Nations General Assembly as "cynical" and "full of hypocrisy."
On Monday Netanyahu will meet US President Barack Obama at the White House then return to New York to address the General Assembly on Tuesday.
Netanyahu has long put what Israel and the west say is a covert Iranian programme to develop a nuclear weapon at the forefront of his security concerns.
Iran denies the charge and in his UN address Rouhani said that "nuclear weapons… have no place in Iran's security and defence doctrine."
The self-styled moderate, tasked with easing concerns over Iran's nuclear program, made history on Friday by speaking by phone to US President Barack Obama, in the first contact between the countries' leaders since the 1979 Islamic revolution.
Israeli media said that Netanyahu had instructed his ministers and senior officials not to comment on the call.


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Just like clockwork Netanyahu is off to Washington to nip this in the bud.

Quote:Netanyahu heads to America to challenge Iranian charm blitz



By Agence France-Presse
Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:55 EDT


Topics: benjamin netanyahu ♦ iran ♦ Iranian President Hassan Rouhani


​Israeli premier Benjamin Netanyahu left for New York early Sunday in a bid to challenge perceptions that Iran under its new president poses less of a nuclear threat than before.
"I intend to tell the truth in the face of the sweet talk and charm offensive of Iran" Israeli public radio quoted him as saying as he boarded the plane at Tel Aviv's Ben Gurion airport.
"Telling the truth at this time is essential for world peace and security and, of course, for Israel's security."
Earlier in the week he described Iranian President Hassan Rouhani's conciliatory speech to the United Nations General Assembly as "cynical" and "full of hypocrisy."
On Monday Netanyahu will meet US President Barack Obama at the White House then return to New York to address the General Assembly on Tuesday.
Netanyahu has long put what Israel and the west say is a covert Iranian programme to develop a nuclear weapon at the forefront of his security concerns.
Iran denies the charge and in his UN address Rouhani said that "nuclear weapons… have no place in Iran's security and defence doctrine."
The self-styled moderate, tasked with easing concerns over Iran's nuclear program, made history on Friday by speaking by phone to US President Barack Obama, in the first contact between the countries' leaders since the 1979 Islamic revolution.
Israeli media said that Netanyahu had instructed his ministers and senior officials not to comment on the call.

Undoubtedly, Netanyahu spoke first with the leader of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, who also want to stop the prospect of a negotiated settlement.

Shades of the Kremlin and Pentagon right-wingers and the Cuban missile crisis of 1962 who both wanted "war war not jaw jaw".

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Head of Revolutionary Guard condemns Rouhani Obama call

Iran's Revolutionary Guards warned President Hasan Rouhani that he should have refused to take last week's historic telephone call from US counterpart Barack Obama.


[Image: Rouhani_2687146c.jpg]Iranian President Hassan Rouhani speaks in New York Photo: John Minchillo/AP






By AFP

1:42PM BST 30 Sep 2013



It was the first public criticism by a senior Iranian official of Friday's landmark first contact between leaders of the two countries since the rupture of diplomatic relations in the aftermath of the 1979 Islamic revolution.

"The president took a firm and appropriate position during his stay" in New York for the United Nations General Assembly, General Mohammad Ali Jafari said in an interview with the Tasnimnews.com website.

"But just as he refused to meet Obama, he should also have refused to speak with him on the telephone and should have waited for concrete action by the United States."

The public criticism came despite appeals earlier this month by both Rouhani and supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei for the Guards, who have long seen themselves as guardians of the values of the revolution, to steer clear of politics.

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Jafari said that Washington should respond to the good will shown by Rouhani in New York by "lifting all sanctions against the Iranian nation, releasing Iranian assets frozen in the United States, ending its hostility towards Iran and accepting Iran's nuclear programme."
The commander of the Guards air wing General Amir-Ali Hadjizadeh told the corps' own sepahnews.com website that "US hostility can't be forgotten with a phone call and a smile."
On September 17, Khamenei said it was "unnecessary" for the Guards to get involved in politics.
The previous day, Rouhani called on the Guards to "stand above political tendencies."
Rowhani's contact with Obama was broadly welcomed in the Iranian press as well as abroad, but a small group of hardline Islamists protested outside Tehran's Mehrabad airport on his return.
A shoe was thrown, as the protesters chanted: "Death to America," a slogan that was long a ritual refrain at official rallies.

Telegraph.



The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
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And pretty sure he ran it past the Saudis too...
David Guyatt Wrote:Undoubtedly, Netanyahu spoke first with the leader of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, who also want to stop the prospect of a negotiated settlement.

Shades of the Kremlin and Pentagon right-wingers and the Cuban missile crisis of 1962 who both wanted "war war not jaw jaw".

"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Curioser and curioser...

Quote:Iran refuses to ship out uranium stockpiles but hopes rise of breakthroughNegotiating team shows willingness to discuss curbs on nuclear programme as it prepares to fly to Geneva for talks with west
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Julian Borger, diplomatic editor, and Saeed Kamali Dehghan
theguardian.com, Sunday 13 October 2013 15.28 BST
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The statement is the clearest outline of Iran's negotiating position since the election in June of President Hassan Rouhani. Photograph: Atta Kenare/AFP/Getty Images


Iran has said it would not allow any of its enriched uranium stockpile to be shipped abroad, but could sanction other curbs on its nuclear programme to reassure the international community, it is not interested in building a bomb.
The statement, the clearest outline of Iran's negotiating position since the election in June of President Hassan Rouhani, was delivered as an Iranian negotiating team prepared to fly out for nuclear talks in Geneva on Tuesday, with hopes of a breakthrough at their highest point in four years. A senior member of the team, the deputy foreign minister, Abbas Araqchi, told Iranian state television: "Of course we will negotiate regarding the form, amount, and various levels of [uranium] enrichment, but the shipping of materials out of the country is our red line."
In earlier rounds of nuclear negotiations, a group of six major powers had suggested a confidence-building measure by which Iran would stop producing 20%-enriched uranium the main proliferation concern ship out its stockpile and shut down its underground enrichment plant at Fordow, in exchange for limited sanctions relief, on trade in gold, precious metals and petrochemicals.
The 20% enriched uranium is seen as a particular worry because it could relatively easily and quickly be turned into weapons-grade uranium (90% enriched and above the percentages refer to the concentration of the highly fissile isotope, U-235). Israel's prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu has said that Iran's accumulation of enough 20% uranium to make a bomb about 250kg would trigger a military response. The Iranian stockpile is currently about 190kg.
However, a refusal to ship this medium-enriched uranium out of the country will not necessarily be a deal-breaker in Geneva. In previous discussions, the option has been floated of keeping it under surveillance by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in a remote part of Iran such as the island of Kish. Furthermore, the clear statement from Araqchi that his country was willing to accept curbs on its future enrichment activities will be seen as encouraging by the diplomats arriving in Switzerland from the six-nation group: the US, UK, France, Germany, Russia and China. The group is chaired by the EU foreign policy chief, Catherine Ashton.
After positive talks at the UN general assembly last month, Ashton asked Iran to send its proposals early so a response could be prepared before this week's two-day talks. But the Iranian foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, who will lead the delegation to Geneva, said on his English-language Twitter account on Friday: "We will present our views, as agreed, in Geneva, not before. No Rush, No Speculations Please (of course if you can help it!!!)"
Four years ago in Geneva, Iran struck a tentative agreement to stop 20% enrichment, but the deal was later rejected by conservatives in Tehran and ultimately by the Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei.
However, an Iranian official said President Rouhani was in a much stronger political position in Tehran than his predecessor, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who was locked in a long-running power struggle with Khamenei.
"Rouhani has the full backing of the Supreme Leader, but not only that. He is respected as a veteran of the [1980s] war with Iraq, by the military and the Revolutionary Guards," the official said. "People feel that Rouhani has always been with us. With Ahmadinejad they didn't feel that way. They didn't know where he had come from."
The official said that the Rouhani government was confident a deal could be done. When asked whether Iran would be prepared to accept strict curbs on its enrichment programme and more stringent IAEA inspections in return for sanctions relief and the recognition of Iran's right to enrich uranium in principle, the Iranian official nodded. But he added: "Everything depends on how this is done, the sequencing. Rouhani and Zarif has to be able to show he is gaining something for Iran - that this is not a trick."


William Luers, a veteran US diplomat who runs the Iran Project advocating reconciliation with Tehran, said: "I get the impression from talking to both Zarif and Rouhani … that they have made a decision that they want to open up their economy to the world again, and are prepared to do substantial things to make that happen. And they will say: 'We want to know what you will do in terms of sanctions relief.'"If progress is made at the talks, the impasse between Congress and President Barack Obama could become a significant obstacle as most US sanctions have been imposed by Congress and would require congressional approval to be limited permanently. However, European officials point out that Obama has the power to suspend US sanctions and that the EU could independently lift its oil embargo and financial sanctions if it was thought necessary to maintain momentum towards a comprehensive deal.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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