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MPs pay to rise by 11%
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Hooray! So well deserved too.

Parliament is an august body who members are wholly driven by the pure and unselfish spirit of public service. The huge sacrifices these men and women make - not to mention the curious haircuts and speech impediments they often sport - deserve recognition and commensurate reward.

I do hope they will now be allowed to be left alone in peace to get on with their day jobs of fiddling their expenses and dedicating the bulk of their time to their main "second" jobs as "advisors" and "non executive directors" on the boards of some of the major corporations.

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An 11% pay rise for MPs equals a salary of £74,000 and angry voters




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The Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (Ipsa) will unveil its final proposals next week


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MPs are to get a £7,600 pay rise after a watchdog refused to bow to pressure from political leaders to scale back the increase at a time voters are feeling the squeeze.

The Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (Ipsa) will unveil its final proposals next week - including boosting MPs' salaries to £74,000 from 2015 - 11% higher than they get at present.
It is expected to try to temper criticism by announcing a tougher-than-expected squeeze on MPs' pensions in a bid to cancel out the £4.6 million cost to the public purse.
A £2.5 million saving by downgrading the final salary scheme to career average - matching the rest of the public sector - had already been proposed alongside a crackdown on various perks.
All three main party leaders have condemned the increase at a time of national austerity, with both Labour's Ed Miliband and Liberal Democrat Nick Clegg pledged to shun the extra money.
David Cameron has stopped short of matching that pledge - and is under pressure from some Tory MPs to back the increase - but has said Westminster pay should not rise while others face restraint.
However, following a consultation on the proposals - first set out in July - Ipsa is set to press ahead.
And MPs have no way to prevent the rise coming into force after the next general election - unless they change the law set up in the wake of the expenses scandal to stop them setting their own pay.
Research by Ipsa found that two-thirds of MPs believe they are underpaid and the watchdog's chairman Sir Ian Kennedy has insisted politicians' pay must "catch up" after years of being suppressed.
But many politicians are also furious at Ipsa's expenses regime and suggested they could back a move to strip it of the responsibility to set pay in order to destroy its authority.
A Conservative source said Mr Cameron had been "clear that we are committed to reducing the cost of politics" and that the Prime Minister had consistently called for "restraint" in MPs' pay.
A Labour source said: "We will obviously wait to see what the final proposals are, however, as we have always said, any rise in MPs' pay must be considered in the light of the current economic climate and the cost-of-living crisis facing people across the country.
"It must also be seen in the context of the decision to limit or freeze many workers' pay increases in both the public and private sectors."
Commons deputy speaker Lindsay Hoyle, a Labour MP, cautioned against interfering with the system.
"I agree that MPs should not vote on their own pay," he told the Mail on Sunday. "It should be left to an independent body. It's not in the gift of the party leaders."
In July, Mr Miliband predicted that Ipsa would drop the significant rise, but added: "If this was to go ahead I wouldn't be accepting this pay rise."
Mr Clegg said then that it was the "worst time" to advocate a double-digit pay rise.
Ipsa's original report conceded there is no "compelling evidence" that MPs' current salary level is deterring candidates, making people leave Parliament, affecting the diversity of the House or lowering the standard of ministers.
But Sir Ian argued it was "wrong in itself" to keep MP pay low, arguing that the expenses scandal had been the result of too much restraint.
Ipsa said it had looked at increasing the current salary of £66,396 to anywhere between £73,365 and £83,430, but opted for the lower end "in recognition of the current difficult economic circumstances".
After 2015 wages would increase annually in line with average UK earnings.
Among measures already on the table to offset the cost of the rise - which is 9% higher than the rate MPs will be on by 2015 - was an end to "resettlement grants" of up to £65,000 for departing MPs.
Under the plans that would be reduced to two weeks' pay for every year of service if they are under 41, and three weeks if they are older by 2020.
A £15 dinner allowance would be scrapped, claims for tea and biscuits would not be allowed, and taxpayer-funded taxis home only allowed after 11pm.
There would also be a crackdown on claims for running second homes, with costs such as TV licences and contents insurance no longer being met.
Mathew Sinclair, chief executive of the TaxPayers' Alliance campaign group, said: "Taxpayers will be furious that the pay rise comes at a time when MPs urge public pay restraint and the Chancellor tells us he can't afford to ease the burden of taxes on hard-pressed households and businesses.
"Ipsa's own polling and research shows that the current level of pay to be broadly fair and that the public simply do not back the increase.
"This announcement amounts to an unaccountable quango putting up two fingers to taxpayers. The rise must be rejected."
A Downing Street spokesman said: "MPs' pay is a matter for Ipsa. The Government has submitted its views to Ipsa as part of the body's consultation on MPs' pay.
"It made it clear that, while Ipsa is an independent body set up by Parliament, in future decisions on remuneration it expects Ipsa to take into account the Government's wider approach to public service pay and pensions.
"We believe that the cost of politics should be going down, not up."



The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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The harsh life of being an MP


On being elected to Parliament, any self respecting new MP faces some harsh realities. The new member must, firstly buy his work clothes (which are NOT tax deductible - amazing isn't it - quite senseless really), in order to prepare himself for the hazard duties of House life.


This is no mean task. The usual kit consists of the following:


Hand made suits from a bespoke Saville Row tailor - £4000 each and a minimum of four suits. Plus weekend shooting and country walking attire - £3000 each. Evening dress, minimum of 2 £8000. Morning suit £4000. Total £34,000.


Hand made shirts from Jermyn Street shirt makers and lifters to the aristocracy - £400 each (at the bottom end) and a minimum of a dozen - various colours. Total £4,800.


Church's shoes, at £500 each and a minimum of 5 pairs - total £2,500.


Silk ties £175 each and a minimum of 200 (fort all occasions) in various shades of "Party" colours - total £35,000


Gentleman's accessories: 1 everyday Longines wrist watch £750.00, I Hublot's dress watch (for State opening/Queen's speech) £95,000, plus 1 Audemars Piquet (for whoring and "boying") £40,000. Gold cufflinks minimum 3 pairs £2000 each. Tie stud (diamond) £4,500. Dress shirt studs set of 4 £325. Mountblanc fountain pen £450.00 Grand total £148,000.


In addition we need to include an annual cost of entertaining, vital sustenance (drinks at bar) and condom's - estimated £17,500. Or £7950 if condoms are excluded (they're not always claimable on expenses).


Sundries: Winter skiing holidays in Gstaad, Summer holidays in Antigua, Christmas in Paris, a "half-gun" on Grouse moor in Scotland, pox clinic, liver clinic, weight loss clinic, golf club fees, Elm Guest House day & night pass, men's barber, grooming & specialist haircuts, Elocution and Swahili classes, specialist "sports" creams etc etc. £72,000


The grand total is vast!

And voters bitch and complain that these selfless Parliamentarians are only "in it" to find relaxing "hobby" corporate jobs, and wanting the money, money, money and prestige, prestige, prestige!

Honestly...

Nothing could be closer to the truth.






The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#3
Am I mistaken or did you overlook the onerous upkeep on the second home and moat maintenance.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:Am I mistaken or did you overlook the onerous upkeep on the second home and moat maintenance.

No, that comes under claimed expenses. A does moat cleaning, gardening, re-roofing the pile, swimming-pool cleaning, re-stocking the drinks cabinet, home decorating, dinner silverware. The list is endless.

And we shouldn't forget either 'management fees" (blackmail is such an uncouth word don;t you think) payable to News International...
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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