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Ukrainian Riots Accelerating
#41
Dramatic staged theatre scences as the Gas Princess Timoshenko is wheeled on the stage in a wheel chair at the square to give Oscar winning performance. The elected leader Yanukovich is booted out (even though the elections were due in May) and the unelected Timoshenko claims leadership and says Ukraine will join EU in near future. Despite not being elected to represent any one and despite half the country not wanting to join EU. Meanwhile 2 men who want to represent pro-Yanukovich movement try to interupt her speech and are arrested and taken away. The new Ukrainian 'democracy' in action. Meanwhile Yatsenyuk the so called leader of Maiden Square give the nazi salute from the stage. That's the one Frau Nuland wanted installed. And the 'Right Sector' party says it will not stop protesting in the square.

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Here is Yatsenyuk in 2010 saying there is no difference between Yanukovich and Timoshenko. That tune will change now.


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#42
The Timothy Snyder article interview serves to "warn" us that in effect Russia is returning to the Cold War years. There is a solid rejection liberal values in favor totalitarianism. Amazingly, Karl Schmidt is an ideological precursor. Not surprisingly, Snyder ignores the fact that Schmidt is an important thinker for Leo Strauss, the key thinker for neo-conservatives.
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#43
This is of course one version of Anonymous. Others are busy helping the State Department.
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Anonymous Ukraine releases Klitschko e-mails showing treason


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Anonymous Ukraine is battling the forces in Ukraine that are funded and directed from the West and attempting to overthrow the democratically elected government of the sovereign country of Ukraine. Anonymous Ukraine is operating in what can only now be described as a war zone and the security measures they are forced to take are extreme. A member of Anonymous Ukraine who wishes to remain anonymous spoke to the Voice of Russia about the operations and the recent release of e-mails between Vitaly Klischko and the Lithuanian Presidential advisor. The e-mails show that Klitschko was intentionally planning to destabilize the country, is being instructed and funded from abroad and has his accounts in Germany. This is clear evidence of treason. The member of Anonymous does not speak for the entire Anonymous movement but comments as a member of Anonymous Ukraine. As Anonymous has no leaders and the situation is fluid operations may change at any point when consensus is reached.


Greetings citizens of the world. We are Anonymous Ukraine.
The Anonymous Hacktivist Collective worldwide is partially divided on the issue of Ukraine. This has to do with the western mass media propaganda and the conflicting reports that are coming out of the country. This is sad as some Anons are unknowingly supporting the dark forces at work in Ukraine. Members of Anonymous Ukraine are aware of the internal meddling by the United States, NATO and the European Union into the internal sovereign affairs of Ukraine. Anonymous Ukraine supports peace and the right of the people to self determination. The Bandera Nazis and fascist thugs that are beating and killing police and members of the security services of Ukraine do not represent the will or the wishes of the people of Ukraine. The people of Ukraine do not want European Union integration. The people of Ukraine do not want NATO on their territory. The people of Ukraine voted for President Yanukovich to lead them in fair and just democratic elections. The people of Ukraine plea to the President and to Russia for help in stopping the siege of Ukraine by Nazi thugs and murderous gangs. The people of Ukraine do not want to see their beloved capital Kiev occupied by Nazi killers and burned to the ground. The people of Ukraine want their independence to be recognized and be allowed to determine their own fate without pressure from US, NATO, European Union. The people of Ukraine want peace and want the Bandera Nazis to be stopped once and for all. Anonymous Ukraine does not like nor support what is happening in Ukraine now. The so-called opposition is trying to tear Ukraine apart. Anonymous Ukraine has released the e-mails of one of the leaders of the so called opposition and will continue to expose the moves by the west to subvert the sovereign country of Ukraine. The e mails released by Anonymous prove that Vitaly Klichko is a puppet of the West and is being financed through intermediaries in Lithuania. The e mails also prove that Klitchko has bank accounts in Germany and is receiving funding for his coup d'état from the West. We will continue fighting these puppets. The western puppet opposition leaders will hurl Ukraine into chaos. We appeal to the president of our country. The people of Ukraine urge you. President Yanukovich, to restore order and bring calm and stability and disperse the gangs of robbers and Nazis. Anonymous Ukraine will strike at all of the web resources of western hirelings and fascists. Anonymous Ukraine calls for Ukraine to be unified and independent. The government of Ukraine promoted the country's integration into Euro-Atlantic institutions despite the reluctance of Ukrainian people. Ukrainian citizens realize that signing of the Association Agreement with the European Union will lead to the collapse of Ukrainian economy in the near future. We express our support to the people of our country. We want Ukrainian government and EU leadership to understand that people of Ukraine do not want their country to become a raw material donor to Europe. Ukraine must be free. We do not want to be dependent on other countries or organizations. Ukrainian people do not need a speculative Association Agreement with the European Union. Ukraine does not need to be a part of Russia-led Eurasian customs union. We do not need to be servants of NATO. Ukraine does not need European Union. Ukraine does not need NATO. Ukraine should not be anybody's servant. We stand for independent Ukraine. We declare the continuation of Operation Independence. We will strike at the web resources of countries and organizations that pose a threat to freedom and independence of Ukraine!
Operation Independence continues… Expect us
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"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#44
Lauren Johnson Wrote:The Timothy Snyder article interview serves to "warn" us that in effect Russia is returning to the Cold War years.
The US never left the Cold War.

Lauren Johnson Wrote:Not surprisingly, Snyder ignores the fact that Schmidt is an important thinker for Leo Strauss, the key thinker for neo-conservatives.
Not surprisingly at all...
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#45
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/10656023...me=2831589[ATTACH=CONFIG]5730[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]5731[/ATTACH]

Sadly, it seems that all politicians are, if they can get away with it, theives and oligarchs - only a matter of which 'camp' they are in - but the stealing is always 'trickle up' from the 'Plebs'.


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#46
Peter Lemkin Wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/10656023...me=2831589[ATTACH=CONFIG]5730[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]5731[/ATTACH]
Looking forward to seeing Julia's soon.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#47
Peter Lemkin Wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/10656023...me=2831589[ATTACH=CONFIG]5730[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]5731[/ATTACH]

Sadly, it seems that all politicians are, if they can get away with it, theives and oligarchs - only a matter of which 'camp' they are in - but the stealing is always 'trickle up' from the 'Plebs'.

Why else would they go into politics other than to steal from the people and build their power base, so they steal even more in the future... :Sherlock:
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#48
You have to wonder where Putin was during all this? This is his backyard after all.

Was a deal done behind the scenes with Obama, or others? Or was there some other reason for standing back and letting all this happen?

Once the police and government snipers were stood down and refused to appear on the streets the next day following the killing spree, the overthrow was inevitable. But who stood them down?
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#49
David Guyatt Wrote:You have to wonder where Putin was during all this? This is his backyard after all.

Was a deal done behind the scenes with Obama, or others? Or was there some other reason for standing back and letting all this happen?

Once the police and government snipers were stood down and refused to appear on the streets the next day following the killing spree, the overthrow was inevitable. But who stood them down?

He's waiting until Sochi is over to make some 'moves'....I think.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#50
The tiring US media spin on all of this is that the protestors are good guys just trying to get closer to the West and freedom, while the bad guys in the government are making the mistake of trying to be close to Russia.

For 20 years, NATO has been steadily expanding, gobbling up former Soviet republics, right up to the borders of Russia itself. To the extent that the media talks about it at all, it's portrayed as some sort of normal process. Only the "paranoid" Russians think there's something bad about it.
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