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Putin's plane overlapped MH17 flight route less than hour before - report
Published time: July 17, 2014 18:13
Edited time: July 17, 2014 19:24
http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/
Quote:Malaysian Airlines MH17 plane was travelling almost the same route as Russia's President Vladimir Putin's jet shortly before the crash that killed 295, Interfax news agency reports citing sources.
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"I can say that Putin's plane and the Malaysian Boeing intersected at the same point and the same echelon. That was close to Warsaw on 330-m echelon at the height of 10,100 meters. The presidential jet was there at 16:21 Moscow time and the Malaysian aircraft - 15:44 Moscow time," a source told the news agency on condition of anonymity.
"The contours of the aircrafts are similar, linear dimensions are also very similar, as for the coloring, at a quite remote distance they are almost identical", the source added.
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A twitter feed is suggesting that Russian fighters shot it down. False flag alert blinking yellow.
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:A twitter feed is suggesting that Russian fighters shot it down. False flag alert blinking yellow.
No one likely twittering yet knows. It is only speculation at this point. Soon, if not already, both the Russians and the Americans will know well what happened. It is also possible the Ukranians, separatists, and NATO would also have enough information. For the Russians, Ukranians and USA, it will be from their radar, and for the Russians and USA their spy planes, satellites and other assets. The separatists claim to have the two black boxes and are going to give them to the Russians. Its going to be a mess - and I doubt if there will ever be general agreement as to who did what.
By the way, using this 'distraction' as a kind of cover, Israel has just announced a ground invasion of Gaza........
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Albert Doyle Wrote:Today is the 18th anniversary of the missile shootdown of TWA 800.
It is oddly also the 17th anniversary, to the day, of the first flight of the 777!
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From Counterpunch:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/09/p...the-brink/
"Washington is going to have to do something really big and make it look like it was Moscow's doing. Otherwise, their pivot plan is going to hit a brick wall. "
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Supposedly, the Ukrainian government has intercepted the conversation between the militia members and Russian authorities.
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Lauren Johnson Wrote:Supposedly, the Ukrainian government has intercepted the conversation between the militia members and Russian authorities.
Are the localities referred to in the tape really close to each other? Enakievo, Petropavlovskaya, Snezhnoe? According to one amused commentator, they're in different regions.
CIA fail, by the look of it.
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How do you say, "Hoist on your own petard!" in Russian?
According to Google Translate, its "ПоднÑÑ‚ÑŒ на ÑобÑтвенную ловушку." My apologies if I've inadvertently insulted anyone's mom or anything.
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Paul Rigby Wrote:Lauren Johnson Wrote:Supposedly, the Ukrainian government has intercepted the conversation between the militia members and Russian authorities.
Are the localities referred to in the tape really close to each other? Enakievo, Petropavlovskaya, Snezhnoe? According to one amused commentator, they're in different regions.
CIA fail, by the look of it.
The more you reflect on the content, the worse it gets: unsupervised Kazaks - er, what Kazaks in this area? - are entrusted with a "Russian air-defense missile system" (gosh, that does sound impressive) capable of hitting civilian airliners flying in excess of 20,000 feet?
Er, really?
Goodness, what a ripe old farrago that lot is.
But good enough for Langley, it seems.
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Peter Lemkin Wrote:By the way, using this 'distraction' as a kind of cover, Israel has just announced a ground invasion of Gaza........ This was the second thing I thought of when I heard about the crash. Poor Palestinians.
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