Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Conservatives to scrap European Human Rights Act
#1
I think I know where Cameron and Grayling are heading with this. Backwards.

Welcome back to the Victorian era - perhaps even the Georgian era. Great for big business and the utterly wealthy, of course.

Quote:Human Rights Act: Former Attorney General rubbishes 'unworkable' Tory plans to scrap ECHR

[Image: Dominic-Grieve-EPAv2.jpg]

Dominic Grieve said the Justice Secretary's proposals were full of 'howlers'

LIZZIE DEARDEN

Friday 03 October 2014

The former Attorney General has laid waste to the Conservatives' plan to scrap the Human Rights Act, calling their proposals "unworkable".

[B][B]Dominic Grieve, who worked as a barrister before becoming a Tory MP, said the European convention enshrined in British law was "producing decisions of great importance in improving human rights which are inevitably ignored" by the new plans.[/B][/B]
[B][B]In a shift to the right seen as an attempt to woo Ukip voters, the Prime Minister has spoken strongly in favour of a British "bill of rights", claiming the country does not "require instruction from judges in Strasbourg".[/B][/B]
[B][B]The Justice Secretary, Chris Grayling, has drawn up proposals including principles originally drawn up by British lawyers after the Second World War ,to give ultimate power to the Supreme Court.[/B][/B]
[B][B]"We can no longer tolerate this mission creep," he said. "What we have effectively got is a legal blank cheque, where the [European] court can go where it chooses to go."[/B][/B]
[B][B]But Mr Grieve said the paper produced contains a "number of howlers", describing it as a "failure of ambition".[/B][/B]
[B][B][Image: 10.grayling.rx.jpg]
Chris Grayling,the Justice Secretary, is backing a British 'bill of rights'"I also think they are unworkable and will damage the UK's international reputation," he told the Guardian.
[/B][/B]
[B][B]"The suggestion that they can be negotiated with the Council of Europe so that the UK has its own space where it can [take what it wants] while everyone else complies is almost laughable."[/B][/B]
[B][B]Although Mr Grieve agreed with Conservative leaders that some judgements, including to give prisoners the vote, were wrong, he said the latest document "lacked any maturity".[/B][/B]
[B][B][B]READ MORE: DAVID CAMERON TO 'SCRAP' HUMAN RIGHTS ACT
LABOUR VOWS TO DEFEND HUMAN RIGHTS LEGISLATION
VOICES: 'THERE IS A CLIMATE OF CONTEMPT FOR HUMAN RIGHTS'
[/B][/B][/B]

[B][B]He was sacked from the post he held for four years in July after angering right-wing Tories by repeatedly warning of the danger of withdrawing from the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR).[/B][/B]
[B][B]In his speech pledging to scrap it, Mr Cameron citied examples including court battles to deport suspected terrorists and concerning the Afghanistan War to make his case.[/B][/B]
[B][B][Image: v5-abu-qatada-GETTY.jpg]
The ECHR delayed the deportation of radical Muslim cleric Abu Qatada, angering the GovernmentHe added: "With a Conservative government after the next election, this country will have a new British Bill of Rights to be passed in our Parliament, rooted in our values."
[/B][/B]
[B][B]Labour has spoken out against the plans, as well as human rights organisations including Liberty and Amnesty UK, which called them "nasty, spiteful and shameful".[/B][/B]
[B][B]Tim Hancock, campaigns director of Amnesty UK, added: "This is electioneering on the backs of Europe's most vulnerable.[/B][/B]
[B][B]"Under these plans human rights would be reserved for only those people the Government decides should get them. This is a blueprint for human rights you would expect from a country like Belarus.[/B][/B]
[B][B]"We should all be worried when politicians try to set themselves above the law."[/B][/B]
[B][B]Additional reporting by PA[/B][/B]
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
Reply
#2

Abandoning the Human Rights Act UK. Counterstrike and Replacement

By Binoy Kampmark

Global Research, October 08, 2014

Url of this article:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/abandoning-the-human-rights-act-uk-counterstrike-and-replacement/5406772
“The Tories’ major announcement was to scrap the Human Rights Act, because, and I quote, ‘people get very frustrated with human rights.’”
Tim Farron, Liberal Democrats President, The Guardian, Oct 7, 2014
Political positions were only ever the designations of seating arrangements. Left and Right distinctions have as much to do with actual political differences as they do with furniture – witness the 1789 arrangements of the National Assembly. Occasionally, such positions fall to the way side, or at the very least, become peculiarly artificial. The Human Rights Act in the UK has been one of those grand British contradictions, typical in a society thrilled with rights as a matter of “values”, but suspicious about their suggestive nannyism. Be free, but be suspicious when told about where you went wrong about protecting them.
The Tory party are, in that sense, typically confused about where to place such rights. Paradoxically, they batter and pound for the platform that liberties are meant to be protected – at least when it comes to some of them. But liberties are one thing – once they assume the proper form of genuine rights, the sort one can actually claim (lawyers term these “claim rights”) the water of discussion gets somewhat murkier. Liberty talk is always deemed more attractive than that of rights. When the purse gets involved, the conservatives will run.
The Human Rights Act (1998) is deemed insidious in a range of ways. It supposedly clips sovereignty by slipping European law into the lives of British citizens. It stands guard over British officials. For that reason, the British conservatives are advocating the British Bill of Rights and Responsibilities as both counter strike and replacement. The response is characteristically piecemeal, so much so that the anti-EU UK Independence Party have deemed the proposal by David Cameron’s party worthless. Labour and the Lib Dems take more traditional views on this – a pure political agenda is at work.
The Tories point is to place Britain in an exceptional category – for them, it is the Rolls Royce of human rights reform and innovation. This is done while placing the European Convention on Human Rights of 1950 in its historical place. The enemy in this enterprise of reform is the European Court of Human Rights, a creature of judicial unsoundness which is suffering from “mission creep” (such is the curse of military operational language.)
In taking such a stance, the Tory statement is placing the European Convention in the zoo of legal paraphernalia, distant and hopefully irrelevant. “It was agreed in the shadow of Nazism, at a time when Stalin was still in power in the Soviet Union and when people were still being sent to the gulags without trial.”[1]
Such wording sets the scene for a rather crude, and frightened, form of originalism – reading the charter in a virginal state that has bucked evolution over the years. Such documents, in terms of intention, are read at the creation, rather than in the current point of history. When the drafters of the charter came together, claim the writers of the Tory manifesto, they did not contemplate various “voting rights for prisoners”. Nor was artificial insemination for prisoners and their partners something that the drafters had in mind (oh, how unimaginative they must have been.)
The Tories are now arranging the legal furniture for 2015, assuming that they will retain power (without the Liberal Democrats) and be rid of the turbulent priest that is the European justice system. Justice Secretary Chris Grayling has been claiming that there should be no “legal blank cheque to take human rights into areas where they have never applied”, a fascinatingly restricted view on rights if ever there was one.[2]
It is then with some irony that the conservative approach to human rights, once established, is not that they stay in unmodified stone, but evolve in the matter befitting society. Evolution, in other words, is appropriate as long as it is parochial. All is fine if Britain does it. Conservatives, after all that jostling, like nothing more than to mould and adjust the way a human right is applied. The point to stress here is that it is always being done for the public good. “Over the past 20 years, there have been significant developments which have undermined public confidence in the human rights framework in the UK, and which make change necessary today.”
The leap of eccentricity occurs when rights become situational – a matter of interpretation for the country in question. This is the classic contradiction – things change, but things must stay the same. By all means, “fundamental human rights is as important as ever.” But the logic of this, then, is not to have a meddlesome supra national entity seeking to place their judicial paws on the Sceptred Isle, with its own brand of rights to uphold and parade. “That is why we must put Britain first, taking action to reform the human rights laws in the UK, so they are credible, just and command public support.”
Not all will be comfortable with CameronÂ’s stance. The Daily Mirror has made a good fist of attempting to justify the rewards of the Human Rights Act over the years.[3] It points out, as Lib Dem President Tim Farron has, that no one less than the conservative deity, Winston Churchill, saw scope for the European Convention.[4]
The rights of such people as Gary McKinnon, UFO fantasist and hacker of US government computers, were protected because the legislation prohibits “degrading treatment or punishment”. The right to have children is preserved, as is that of preventing families from being separated. Victims of domestic violence fall under its protective umbrella. And it has been used as a weapon against the surveillance community.
Removing the act will not simply be an excuse for political restructuring – it will be an announcement that rights are purely subordinate entities, lying at the mercy of state discretion. This will not worry those negotiators, who are already sharpening their implements. Should there be “anything in that relationship [with the EU] which encroaches upon our new human rights framework, then that is something [...] for us to address as part of the renegotiation.”[5]
Dr. Binoy Kampmark was a Commonwealth Scholar at Selwyn College, Cambridge. He lectures at RMIT University, Melbourne. Email: [email protected]
Notes

[1] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/03_10_14_humanrights.pdf
[2] http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-29466113
[3] http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/helps-every-day-what-human-4375438
[4]http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/07/winston-churchill-leave-conservatives-liberal-democrats-protest-human-rights-act
[5] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/03_10_14_humanrights.pdf
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
Reply


Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Free lynne stewart resist the destruction of democratic rights in america Magda Hassan 23 39,297 16-03-2017, 01:07 PM
Last Post: Peter Lemkin
  Another stunning expansion of corporate rights: corps have right to religion Drew Phipps 14 7,280 14-09-2014, 11:24 AM
Last Post: Magda Hassan
  Saudi women's rights activists sent to jail David Guyatt 1 2,783 29-09-2013, 01:46 PM
Last Post: Magda Hassan
  Citizen Rights Don't Apply to Roma Magda Hassan 17 12,360 28-09-2013, 02:13 AM
Last Post: Magda Hassan
  CIA 'tortured and sodomised' terror suspect, human rights court rules Magda Hassan 3 4,169 14-12-2012, 09:37 AM
Last Post: Peter Lemkin
  Civil rights lawyer explains how to crash the justice system Magda Hassan 2 4,005 24-09-2012, 11:00 PM
Last Post: Bob Gaebler
  Rachel Corrie's family bring civil suit over human shield's death in Gaza David Guyatt 8 9,958 14-04-2012, 05:52 PM
Last Post: Albert Doyle
  Government 'to scrap terror control orders' David Guyatt 2 3,140 02-01-2011, 01:28 PM
Last Post: David Guyatt
  International Influence of Bolivia in Human Rights. New Kenyan Constitution Approved by Voters Magda Hassan 0 2,893 12-08-2010, 02:41 AM
Last Post: Magda Hassan
  UK Bill of Rights and Responsibilities. Damien Lloyd 1 4,966 25-03-2009, 10:11 AM
Last Post: David Guyatt

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)