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UFOS - the serious new deep political research topic?
#61
The interest in this article is not in the deliberately deceptive lead headline about the removal of "officials' barbs" about JoePublic:

Quote:MoD doctored officials' barbs about the public in UFO files

Memo reveals UFO files were edited for references to military technology, relations with other countries and insulting remarks about the public

Press Association guardian.co.uk

The Ministry of Defence had to blank out "uncomplimentary comments" made by officials about members of the public before publishing its UFO files, a newly released document shows.

Following a deluge of requests under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, the MoD agreed to disclose its full archive of reported sightings of unexplained sights in the skies.

But a previously secret memo reveals that the files had to be edited for references to military technology, relations with other countries and insulting remarks about the public written by defence officials and police.

The document, now posted on the MoD's website, also shows that officials feared publishing only part of the information would "fuel accusations of a 'cover-up'".

Thousands of pages from the department's UFO files have been released through the National Archives since 2008, revealing details of hundreds of reports of strange flying objects and encounters with aliens.

The newly released memo to ministers and defence chiefs, dated September 2007, discusses how to handle making the information public.

It notes: "The majority of the files are of low security classification, but include references to air defence matters, defence technology, relations with foreign powers and occasional uncomplimentary comments by staff or police officers about members of the public, which will need to be withheld in accordance with FoI principles."

The document continues: "The MoD is aware of no clear evidence to prove or disprove the existence of aliens, and consequently the files are considerably less exciting than the 'industry' surrounding the UFO phenomena would like to believe."

Dealing with all the FoI requests for information about UFOs was becoming "increasingly costly and time-consuming" by 2007, with the Directorate of Air Staff (DAS) receiving 199 applications in 2005 alone, the memo shows.

Officials realised they would be forced to release virtually all the MoD files within a few years, and decided it would be better to do this in a "structured" way.

The document pours cold water on conspiracy theories suggesting that the government was heavily involved in investigating aliens. "Contrary to what many members of the public may believe, MoD has no interest in the subject of extraterrestrial life forms visiting the UK, only in ensuring the integrity and security of UK airspace," it says.

The MoD was tasked with recording sightings of UFOs from the end of the second world war until it shut down its special investigation unit on 1 December last year.

After the unit was closed, defence staff were told to tell the public to stop making UFO reports in an order sent to all British military establishments.

"Stations that are contacted by members of the public are advised not to encourage them to report a UFO sighting or to expect an investigation to take place," the newly published order reads.

UFO expert David Clarke, who obtained the memo and the order following FoI applications, was instrumental in getting the full files released.

He said: "What appears to have happened is that they had to make the move because of all the pressure they were getting from people making FoI requests. It must have been costing them a fortune.

"The transfer of the files to the National Archives and the decision to close the desk itself seem to be linked. They were clearly pleased to be shot of it."

The fifth instalment of the MoD's UFO files was released last week, revealing reports of a large triangular UFO hovering in the skies above the home of the former home secretary Michael Howard near Folkestone, Kent, in March 1997.

Clarke, a lecturer in journalism at Sheffield Hallam University, said two-thirds of the archive – or about 120 files – remained to be made public.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb...s-doctored

The interest lies precisely here:

Quote:a previously secret memo reveals that the files had to be edited for references to military technology
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#62
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:The interest lies precisely here:

Quote:a previously secret memo reveals that the files had to be edited for references to military technology

Indeed.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#63
I'm all in favor, David Guyatt (btw, got those books -- I'll report back in 2011.) There's lots of 'material' to choose from out there (pardon the pun), and a lot of interest in the topic, especially every time Hollywood calls forth some new blockbuster movie. As with any similar topic, the credibility is up for judgment.

Maybe someone has tweaked Drake's Equation. [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation ]

And as I have nothing in particular to offer up to the conversation or exploration, I'll just read, for the most part. I will, however, report in if possible when I have made a sighting (particularly with clear photo documentation), or if one invites me to dinner, just as long as I am not the dinner.

I think we should make it a rule at Deep Politics Forum, with stair-step overlap, that:

for close encounters of the fifth kind, the entity should immediately be offered a free membership at Deep Politics Forum;

for close encounters of the sixth kind, a post at DPF must be made ASAP;

for close encounters of the seventh kind, reports of same must be brought to the immediate attention of all DPF founders so that they may double-check the legitimacy of all members.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_encounter
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
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#64
Ed Jewett Wrote:...

I think we should make it a rule at Deep Politics Forum, with stair-step overlap, that:

for close encounters of the fifth kind, the entity should immediately be offered a free membership at Deep Politics Forum;

for close encounters of the sixth kind, a post at DPF must be made ASAP;

for close encounters of the seventh kind, reports of same must be brought to the immediate attention of all DPF founders so that they may double-check the legitimacy of all members.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_encounter

:hahaha:
Alien entities are most welcome at the DPF as long as they agree to abide by the forum rules which apply to all members both great and small. If they don't .... :damnmate:
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#65
Magda Hassan Wrote:Alien entities are most welcome at the DPF as long as they agree to abide by the forum rules which apply to all members both great and small. If they don't .... :damnmate:

This may help prepare us for that moment in which they do attempt contact:

Top Secret Government Alien UFO Invasion Film
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#66
Austin Kelley Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Alien entities are most welcome at the DPF as long as they agree to abide by the forum rules which apply to all members both great and small. If they don't .... :damnmate:

This may help prepare us for that moment in which they do attempt contact:

Top Secret Government Alien UFO Invasion Film

:congrats:Oh, that's hilarious Austin! A L. Ron Hubbard production by any chance?
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#67
Magda Hassan Wrote::congrats:Oh, that's hilarious Austin! A L. Ron Hubbard production by any chance?

No, though experimental film maker Craig Baldwin did recently release a fabulous full-length send up of all things Scientological.

Here's a clip:

Mock Up On Mu
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#68
Austin Kelley Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Alien entities are most welcome at the DPF as long as they agree to abide by the forum rules which apply to all members both great and small. If they don't .... :damnmate:

This may help prepare us for that moment in which they do attempt contact:

Top Secret Government Alien UFO Invasion Film

One film the Monty Python team would have been proud to make. Fabulous.LaughLaughLaugh
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#69
Offered without comment or opinion, but loaded with things to explore:

http://www.keyholepublishing.com/

This is the "about" text:

Richard Dolan was born in Brooklyn, New York, studied at Alfred University and Oxford University, was a finalist for a Rhodes scholarship, and completed his graduate work in history at the University of Rochester. Prior to his interest in UFOs, Dolan studied U.S. Cold War strategy, Soviet history and culture, and international diplomacy.

In 2000, he published UFOs and the National Security State: An Unclassified History, 1941-1973 (republished in 2002 with the subtitle Chronology of a Cover-Up, 1941-1973). This 500-page history provides clear detail on the major UFO cases of the early Cold War era, the attitudes and policies toward UFOs by the military and intelligence community, and the fascinating development of the citizen movements to end UFO secrecy.



In 2009, Richard completed Volume Two of his historical study, subtitled The Cover-Up Exposed, 1973-1991, and is now at work on the final volume of his historical trilogy.



Richard has also published articles and spoken at conferences around the world. Among his main themes are the destruction of our political liberties as a result of the UFO cover-up. He has also speculated on the possible nature of the non-humans themselves and what their presence here means for our civilization. This has led him to take a fresh approach to the topic of “Exopolitics” and to develop unique insights into the practical challenges and opportunities for a true disclosure of the UFO phenomenon.



Richard has done a great deal of television work, having appeared on many documentaries for the History Channel, Sci Fi Channel, BBC, and elsewhere. In 2006 he was host to a six-episode series for the Sci Fi Channel, called SciFi Investigates.
"Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"
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#70
Quote:Richard... has also speculated on the possible nature of the non-humans themselves and what their presence here means for our civilization.

Yes, there are a lot of non-humans running our world these days.

Let's hope the psychosis heals itself before irreparable damage is done.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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