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“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.â€
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I've posted this elsewhere on the forum but I know some people don't often venture outside the JFK section so I am re-posting it here:
http://t.co/mQFImzFOOr
It gives an excellent overview of the last 100+ years of history and provides valuable context for Dulles' place in the "grand scheme of things." Very much recommended.
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This is interesting and its good that Corbett is finally catching up with the JFK critical community.
The stuff about the Dulles brothers and the Nazis is really interesting. As its been covered up for so long.
But he gets a part of the BOP wrong. The Pentagon had almost no supervisorial responsibility for the operation.
It was a CIA baby all the way. IN fact, the Pentagon actually said it could not succeed on its own without military aid, but Bissell made sure that did not get to Kennedy.
Man, Kinzer says that Dulles was getting senile in 1961-63? That is just nuts.
Dulles was a prime manipulator on the WC. He then hdied Gordon Novel to spy on Garrison in 1966-67.
What crap.
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I'm curious to see what new info and discussion appears with the forthcoming David Talbot book on Dulles. I've ordered it and it's due out in a couple of months. It's one of the handful of interesting new titles out later this year - Greg Grandin's KISSINGER'S SHADOW is another.
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Anthony Thorne Wrote:I'm curious to see what new info and discussion appears with the forthcoming David Talbot book on Dulles.
700 pages in hardcover! Sounds good!
Quote:An explosive, headline-making portrait of Allen Dulles, the man who transformed the CIA into the most powerfuland secretivecolossus in Washington, from the founder of Salon.com and author of the New York Times bestseller Brothers.
America's greatest untold story: the United States' rise to world dominance under the guile of Allen Welsh Dulles, the longest-serving director of the CIA. Drawing on revelatory new materialsincluding newly discovered U.S. government documents, U.S. and European intelligence sources, the personal correspondence and journals of Allen Dulles's wife and mistress, and exclusive interviews with the children of prominent CIA officialsTalbot reveals the underside of one of America's most powerful and influential figures.
Dulles's decade as the director of the CIAwhich he used to further his public and private agendaswere dark times in American politics. Calling himself "the secretary of state of unfriendly countries," Dulles saw himself as above the elected law, manipulating and subverting American presidents in the pursuit of his personal interests and those of the wealthy elite he counted as his friends and clientscolluding with Nazi-controlled cartels, German war criminals, and Mafiosi in the process. Targeting foreign leaders for assassination and overthrowing nationalist governments not in line with his political aims, Dulles employed those same tactics to further his goals at home, Talbot charges, offering shocking new evidence in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
An exposé of American power that is as disturbing as it is timely, The Devil's Chessboard is a provocative and gripping story of the rise of the national security stateand the battle for America's soul.
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Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Man, Kinzer says that Dulles was getting senile in 1961-63? That is just nuts.
Dulles was a prime manipulator on the WC. He then hdied Gordon Novel to spy on Garrison in 1966-67.
What crap.
Shenon says in "Cruel and Shocking" that Dulles was demonstrating senility during the WC, but I guess that didn't prevent him from passing out copies of a lone nut book, or telling the rest of the Commissioners that "this record should be destroyed." Or for that matter showing up at Angleton's house to seize his papers after his death. And Mary Meyer...
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)
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Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
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Jim DiEugenio Wrote:This is interesting and its good that Corbett is finally catching up with the JFK critical community.
The stuff about the Dulles brothers and the Nazis is really interesting. As its been covered up for so long.
But he gets a part of the BOP wrong. The Pentagon had almost no supervisorial responsibility for the operation.
It was a CIA baby all the way. IN fact, the Pentagon actually said it could not succeed on its own without military aid, but Bissell made sure that did not get to Kennedy.
Man, Kinzer says that Dulles was getting senile in 1961-63? That is just nuts.
Dulles was a prime manipulator on the WC. He then hdied Gordon Novel to spy on Garrison in 1966-67.
What crap.
To be fair, he has done some worthwhile JFK-related material in the past, including:
And the other stuff here:
https://www.corbettreport.com/?s=jfk
The thread that you, Greg, Gene et al. have going on the EF re: the Bay of Pigs is really good. Perhaps it's time for someone to write a new book on this subject...
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At 3:39 (in the short Corbett segment), Dan Rather's eyes leave the cue-cards briefly to cut to the right, as if there was someone else in the studio watching him give this performance...
They were still using cue-cards in the sixties, right?
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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Drew Phipps Wrote:At 3:39 (in the short Corbett segment), Dan Rather's eyes leave the cue-cards briefly to cut to the right, as if there was someone else in the studio watching him give this performance...
They were still using cue-cards in the sixties, right?
Eisenhower used a teleprompter in his 1952 campaign, according to Wikipedia.
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