24-02-2016, 07:49 PM
This snippet below is from the Warren Commission testimony of Michael Paine --Ã
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you ever observe or hear prior to the assassination that Lee Oswald had been practicing with a rifle?
Mr. Paine.
No, I didn't know prior to the assassination, we didn't know he had a rifle. I had supposed from my conversation with him back on Neely Street that he would like to have a rifle but I didn't gather that he did.
Please note the "Neely Street" reference...
For those of you who may not have already read Mr. Paine's full testimony, it is worthy of your attention if you find some time within your schedule today or otherwise. Be forewarned…be prepared for more than a few inconsistencies in his sworn testimony, thus the title of this thread. Time is something I don't have at the moment, but I'll revisit at some point over the next 48 hrs to take different portions of his testimony to task.
For a more detailed, intimate look at both Michael & Ruth Paine, the book "Destiny Betrayed" is highly recommended, authored by a pretty astute researcher.
Meanwhile, my focus within this thread will only be to take a few more snippets of Mr. Paine's testimony to challenge his recollection of events, especially his bogus recollection stated above, with a special emphasis upon "Neely Street". Will have to venture back to add some meat and potatoes, but today I leave you with this particular statement of his during his commission exchange w/Allen Dulles, discussing his initial impression of the wrongfully accused --Ã
Mr. Dulles.
Did you say anything to him about the activities of the Civil Liberties Union in connection with the defense of people accused of crimes under certain conditions?
Mr. Paine.
Yes; I am sure I told him that it came to the defense of all people who didn't seem to be receiving adequate help when it seemed to be an issue involving the Bill of Rights. I was then--that was a pang of sorrow that occurred after the assassination when I realized that he had then subsequently, a fortnight later, joined the ACLU, and still didn't quite seem to perceive its purpose, and then I realized--I had also perceived earlier that he was still a young fellow and I had been expecting rather a lot of him, when I first approached meeting him; this man had been to Russia and had been back and I had been--met some others who had been around the world like that and they are powerful people.
Whoa there, Mr. Paine, careful now, don't go letting the cat out of the bag…
and, then there's this gem as well, courtesy of top-shelf researcher Martin Hay, …
Another suspicious event involving the Paines occurred on the day of the assassination. At 1:00 pm on November 22. 1963, Michael Paine placed a collect call to his wife to discuss Oswald's involvement in the assassination. While the telephone operator remained on the line, Michael Paine told his wife that he "Felt sure Lee Harvey Oswald had killed the President but was not responsible." Rather ominously he added, "We both know who is responsible." (FBI report of Robert C. Lish, November 26, 1963, JFK Document No. 105-82555-1437) The most extraordinary thing about this call is that it took place one hour before Oswald's arrest. For obvious reasons, the Warren Commission wanted to sweep this little problem under the rug as swiftly as possible. During Michael Paine's testimony, the ever resourceful commission attorney Wesley Liebeler changed the date of the call to the following day:
LIEBELER: Did you talk to your wife on the telephone at any time during Saturday, November 23?
One lie leads to another…back soon to expound further upon Mr. Paine's falsehood about meeting with the wrongfully accused at "Neely Street".
Lee Harvey Oswald is an innocent victim, exploited by lying treasonous cowards.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you ever observe or hear prior to the assassination that Lee Oswald had been practicing with a rifle?
Mr. Paine.
No, I didn't know prior to the assassination, we didn't know he had a rifle. I had supposed from my conversation with him back on Neely Street that he would like to have a rifle but I didn't gather that he did.
Please note the "Neely Street" reference...
For those of you who may not have already read Mr. Paine's full testimony, it is worthy of your attention if you find some time within your schedule today or otherwise. Be forewarned…be prepared for more than a few inconsistencies in his sworn testimony, thus the title of this thread. Time is something I don't have at the moment, but I'll revisit at some point over the next 48 hrs to take different portions of his testimony to task.
For a more detailed, intimate look at both Michael & Ruth Paine, the book "Destiny Betrayed" is highly recommended, authored by a pretty astute researcher.
Meanwhile, my focus within this thread will only be to take a few more snippets of Mr. Paine's testimony to challenge his recollection of events, especially his bogus recollection stated above, with a special emphasis upon "Neely Street". Will have to venture back to add some meat and potatoes, but today I leave you with this particular statement of his during his commission exchange w/Allen Dulles, discussing his initial impression of the wrongfully accused --Ã
Mr. Dulles.
Did you say anything to him about the activities of the Civil Liberties Union in connection with the defense of people accused of crimes under certain conditions?
Mr. Paine.
Yes; I am sure I told him that it came to the defense of all people who didn't seem to be receiving adequate help when it seemed to be an issue involving the Bill of Rights. I was then--that was a pang of sorrow that occurred after the assassination when I realized that he had then subsequently, a fortnight later, joined the ACLU, and still didn't quite seem to perceive its purpose, and then I realized--I had also perceived earlier that he was still a young fellow and I had been expecting rather a lot of him, when I first approached meeting him; this man had been to Russia and had been back and I had been--met some others who had been around the world like that and they are powerful people.
Whoa there, Mr. Paine, careful now, don't go letting the cat out of the bag…
and, then there's this gem as well, courtesy of top-shelf researcher Martin Hay, …
Another suspicious event involving the Paines occurred on the day of the assassination. At 1:00 pm on November 22. 1963, Michael Paine placed a collect call to his wife to discuss Oswald's involvement in the assassination. While the telephone operator remained on the line, Michael Paine told his wife that he "Felt sure Lee Harvey Oswald had killed the President but was not responsible." Rather ominously he added, "We both know who is responsible." (FBI report of Robert C. Lish, November 26, 1963, JFK Document No. 105-82555-1437) The most extraordinary thing about this call is that it took place one hour before Oswald's arrest. For obvious reasons, the Warren Commission wanted to sweep this little problem under the rug as swiftly as possible. During Michael Paine's testimony, the ever resourceful commission attorney Wesley Liebeler changed the date of the call to the following day:
LIEBELER: Did you talk to your wife on the telephone at any time during Saturday, November 23?
One lie leads to another…back soon to expound further upon Mr. Paine's falsehood about meeting with the wrongfully accused at "Neely Street".
Lee Harvey Oswald is an innocent victim, exploited by lying treasonous cowards.