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Castro's speech Nov 23rd 1963 post assassination speech. Cannot find original. Please help!
#11
Magda Hassan Wrote:No. You don't understand. I also linked that speech in my original post. You can find Schotz's copy all over the internet. What I am looking for is the ORIGINAL. The primary source. The one that first came to the attention of Schotz. Which doesn't seem to exist. There is no broadcast by Castro recorded. There is no speech in the Cuban, UN and other archives where it should be.

Here's a 1964 FBI report that makes reference to the speech. That's the oldest reference I can find to it. It's weird that there is no official transcript of it.

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%...m%2001.pdf

The Warren Report (p659) refers to it briefly, claiming the US government had a tape recording of it.
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#12
Just realized that those were referring to a Nov 27th speech. However, Weisberg in Oswald in New Orleans refers to the November 23 speech (page 144-145). Weisberg includes part of the transcript (saying he received it as an unofficial translation, implies it was suppressed by the WC.) I'll have to look through the Hood website and see if I can find more.

Edit: Here's something from Weisberg's archives. He apparently got this from Sylvia Meagher in 1967:

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%...m%2009.pdf
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#13
Thanks Tracey. The FBI are also referring to a speech by Castro on November 27th. While Marty's speech references November 23. I expect Fidel did have quite a bit to say at the time so most likely several speeches and he does talk through out the years on Kennedy and RFK and EMK too. But still no original. It must be around. But where?


Edit: Sorry Tracey. Just saw your second post about the 27th speech. Still hunting for original.
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#14
Magda Hassan Wrote:Thanks Tracey. The FBI are also referring to a speech by Castro on November 27th. While Marty's speech references November 23. I expect Fidel did have quite a bit to say at the time so most likely several speeches and he does talk through out the years on Kennedy and RFK and EMK too. But still no original. It must be around. But where?


Edit: Sorry Tracey. Just saw your second post about the 27th speech. Still hunting for original.

Castro apparently made many public statements in the days after the assassination. I can't think of any public figure who made as many speeches as he did. He probably would have needed a huge staff to record and transcribe all of them.

Late on the evening of 11/23 the AP in Miami reported on Castro's speech:
[URL="http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20Materials/White%20Assassination%20Clippings%20Folders/Reaction/Item%2003.pdf"]http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20Materials/White%20Assassination%20Clippings%20Folders/Reaction/Item%2003.pdf

[/URL] 1974-75 Castro was interviewed by Frank Mankiewicz and Kirby Jones for their book, With Fidel:

He expressed "great displeasure" over JFK's death; "...we would have preferred that he continue in the Presidency of the United States. Because if there was a President of the United States who could have had the courage to change policy...that was Kennedy." "...when he became President, this whole plan of training troops and of invading Cuba had already been organized. And he had great doubts...It must not be forgotten, as I have mentioned, that it was Nixon who had proposed that the Marines and the Armed Forces to be used." "For a while, the CIA was attempting assassination of some of our revolutionary leaders. Some say the decision was on Kennedy's desk several times. We do not know. It's as much a mystery as Kennedy's own assassination. It would be a good thing if the truth were known. I have heard that there are certain documents that will not be published for 100 years and I ask myself why. What secret surrounds the Kennedy assassination that these papers cannot be published? I ask myself why the man who commits such an act tries to come here? As you know, he applied for - and was denied - a permit to travel to Cuba. And one must take into account the fact that a few days after killing Kennedy, he himself was killed. How can the conclusion be avoided that there are others behind all this? Who knows what goals they were seeking by killing Kennedy? Sometimes we ask ourselves if someone did not wish to involve Cuba in this, because I am under the impression that Kennedy's assassination was a conspiracy organized in the United States by reactionaries with possible connections to the CIA. This is my opinion, and my opinion is that the man who carried it out was an agent-provocateur. The other mystery is that this other man, Ruby, who had no moral ideals, no political ideals, no political passions, becomes so enraged by Kennedy's assassination that he kills the assassin right in front of the police. It was incredible, inconceivable. That does not happen even in the most mediocre of movies."
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#15
Found another reference to it here at the National Security Archives in an article by Peter Kornbluh:

Quote:Castro himself saw a very different conspiracy at work. On November 23[SUP]rd[/SUP] he broadcast a statement on Cuban radio in which he labeled the Kennedy assassination "a Machiavellian plot against our country" to justify "immediately an aggressive policy against Cuba…built on the still warm blood and unburied body of their tragically assassinated President." Oswald, he stated, may have been "an instrument of the most reactionary sectors that have been planning a sinister plot, who may have planned the assassination of Kennedy because of disagreement with his international policy.
At the time of this dramatic statement, Castro knew something about Kennedy's international policy that the rest of the world did not: at the time of his assassination Kennedy was actively exploring a rapprochement with Cuba, and working secretly with Castro to set up secret negotiations to improve relations. In November 1963, Cuba had no reason to assassinate Kennedy because they were engaged in back channel diplomacy that could possibly lead to normalized relations. Indeed, at the very moment Kennedy was killed, Castro was meeting with an emissary he had sent to Havana on a "mission of peace."

https://nsarchive.wordpress.com/2013/11/...t-to-cuba/


But still no original. Doesn't look to be in their archives.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#16
Magda Hassan Wrote:Dawn, if you are still in contact with Marty would you ask him where he found this speech?

I will check to see if his email address is in a recent one from Vince Salandria on Talbot's new book, he may have bbc'd it but Vince usually does not do that. The email group that Marty was active in ceased several years ago.

Dawn
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#17
Much appreciated Dawn. I have been in contact with Peter Kornblah who will ask Fidel's office when he is next there and suggested checking JFK Library and US archives which I will do today.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#18
After Fidel Castro was paid by Kennedy's administration after the Bay of Pigs, he [Castro] was also demanding ransom monies from President LBJ. There were still more than 600 Americans and over 1,400 members of their families held in Cuba. Castro was demanding $1,500.00 per person for the release of these people.
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