Here's a rather interesting exchange with Buell Wesley Frazier during his House Select Committee on Assassinations in the late 1970's:
Moriarty: And that was after you had, uh-that you went to Irving.
Frazier: Hm-hmm
Moriarty: This is after- you knew at that time-you knew that Oswald was being.
Frazier: Framed
The above blurb was taken from page No. 8 of his full testimony given.
For those of you who may not already been familiar with his full exchange like me, though I suspect more than a few seasoned researchers already are, here, courtesy of the top-shelf research team down under, is a full transcript of Mr. Frazier's remarks ---Ã http://www.reopenkennedycase.net/richard...ction.html (Please scroll down to the 10th position)
Have to give credit where it's due because there are moments here when I believe Mr. Frazier is trying to reveal what's what, without revealing to parties yet unknown he is in fact doing so. Why is this man hedging his bets after all these years? Never too late to come clean, Mr. Frazier, dare you to.
Sidebar A: Mr. Doyle, should you venture in and the spirit moves you to post, by all means feel free to do so; however, out of respect for this Forum, and the sentiments expressed by Mr. DiEugenio in the now closed thread "Heads Up", and subsequently locked by Magda Hassan, let's try to refrain from straying off topic here, setting our focus more upon what Mr. Frazier shares than adding any conjecture, speculation, etc. to his remarks as it may or may not apply to Prayer Man. In fairness, I'll hold myself to the same standard.
Sidebar A1: Imagine that even someone as early as the night of the assassination knew the wrongfully accused was being framed.
It's hard to make sense out of what Frazier is saying. Maybe it's the transcript. It says tapes one and two were too poor to make transcripts out of. Why didn't the HSCA do that and publish it?
I can't be certain of course, but I suspect that Frazier was a really sensitive spot in the case for the HSCA.
BTW, is that the one with the "doors locked" reply? Where Moriarty says something like, you kept your doors locked every night, except that one? And Frazier says, yes sir. Moriarty says, OK, let's drop that one.
I think its Rich Gilbride who supplied this stuff on Frazier, but he is not part of ROKC anymore.
Alan Ford Wrote:Sidebar A: Mr. Doyle, should you venture in and the spirit moves you to post, by all means feel free to do so; however, out of respect for this Forum, and the sentiments expressed by Mr. DiEugenio in the now closed thread "Heads Up", and subsequently locked by Magda Hassan, let's try to refrain from straying off topic here, setting our focus more upon what Mr. Frazier shares than adding any conjecture, speculation, etc. to his remarks as it may or may not apply to Prayer Man. In fairness, I'll hold myself to the same standard.
I'm not sure I would dare venture another round of your serious approach towards the evidence and 'sentiments' again after your last showing.
You should warn Drew too because of the firm trigonometry 'conjecture and speculation' he added that Jim saved us from addressing due to the mathematical "politicizing" Jim was protesting.
Quote:In fairness, I'll hold myself to the same standard.
You don't have to feel guilty over your trolling Alan. It succeeded at what it intended.
Moriarty: And that was after you had, uh-that you went to Irving.
Frazier: Hm-hmm
Moriarty: This is after- you knew at that time-you knew that Oswald was being.
Frazier: Framed
Yet there is more to that exchange that you neglected to include..
Wesley was known for driving Ozzie to the TSBD Friday morn yet the police had a tough time finding Wesley to talk to him. He went and visited his step father in the hospital - which is hard to believe considering how much he wanted to avoid him - yet when he is finally found and brought in - so is his Enfield rifle and ammo
IMO Wesley here was pressured into telling a story or being arrested as an accomplice with Linnie Mae backing him up.
Michael Hogan October 5, 2014 at 5:25 pm From the recent AARC Conference, as reported by Jerome Corsi:Frazier also explained that immediately after the JFK shooting, the Dallas Police confiscated from his home a British Enfield 303 rifle that he ordered through the mail and a shotgun."Two policemen interrogated me for hours," he said."It was like a military interrogation. They asked me questions for hours, and when they got tired, a second and a third set of policemen came in and asked me the same questions over and over. Before they let me go in, Captain Fritz came into the room with a typed confession he asked me to sign that had me admit I was part of the JFK assassination. I told him I wouldn't sign it. But I was determined, and I wasn't going to admit something I didn't do."Frazier explained that after the Dallas Police let him go home, they arrested him again and brought him back to the headquarters where they took mug shots, fingerprinted him and gave him a lie detector test."I was frightened and I was scared," Frazier said. "But I'm so happy I had the strength and integrity that I did not let them push me and say things that were wrong."Frazier said that even today he still does not believe Oswald killed JFK, despite the testimony he gave the Warren Commission that Oswald brought with him a bag Oswald claimed contained "curtain rods." The Warren Commission concluded Oswald used the bag to hide the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle he used to shoot JFK."There was no way the rifle could have been broken down to fit in that package," Frazier insisted. "I am convinced Lee Harvey Oswald did not bring with him a rifle to work that day."
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
And yet, after all that, the stalwart defense of his buddy, defying the government authorities, testifying under oath 2 times, claiming he knows Oswald's being framed, and after 50 years of opportunities to come clean, Frazier still doesn't say, "Oswald was right there in the doorway with me." I wonder why that is.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."
Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."
Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
An excellent point @Mr. Riddle, certainly a curious dynamic exhibited by the HSCA.
@Mr. DiEugenio Appreciate the specific origins of this wealth of information.
You've managed to do it once again, Mr. Josephs, shedding a much broader light upon the intricate details, reaching far into the darkness surrounding the rock and hard spot an impressionable young teen found himself in on one of the darkest days in history.
The more I read along through the entirety of the full transcript, the more obvious it becomes Mr. Frazier was forced to sell his soul to the devil. Talk about an either/or proposition.
In a legal since, If Mr. Frazier affixed his signature to any "official" government documents circa 1963/64, essentially saying he wouldn't ever fully divulge the private, sensitive information he really knows, Would there be a stiff penalty awaiting him?
Stiff as in "swimming w/the fishes"? Stiff.
As it is Mr. Shields' HSCA on the same link in post 1 is tearing holes into Mr. Frazier's fairytale about watching the wrongfully accuse walk 100-150yards ahead of him carrying a package (right!). Mr. Shields contends that the wrongfully accused was noticeably absent when Mr. Frazier parked his car that morning, so much so that he remembers someone shouting out to Mr. Frazier, inquiring about the whereabouts of his rider.
Of course, within his own HSCA testimony, Mr. Frazier accredits much of "his" testimony by pointing all five fingers at the menacing round of intimidation tactics he endured by an intense round of multiple teams interrogating him for hours on end.
Drew Phipps Wrote:And yet, after all that, the stalwart defense of his buddy, defying the government authorities, testifying under oath 2 times, claiming he knows Oswald's being framed, and after 50 years of opportunities to come clean, Frazier still doesn't say, "Oswald was right there in the doorway with me." I wonder why that is.
Reading this post Mr Phipps, it is definitely not off topic! It is in reference to Mr Frazier's testimony! ​ JMO. FWIW.
15-03-2016, 10:07 PM (This post was last modified: 15-03-2016, 10:25 PM by Alan Ford.)
Somebody know something that isn't public knowledge yet?
Could Buell Wesley Frazier be dropping hints from behind the "Iron Curtain"? ----> even a metal plaque placed on the Book Depository building says Oswald "allegedly" shot JFK...
*credit Dallas Morning News
It would take considerable courage to come clean, and courage like that doesn't grow on trees, so given a choice of a one way ticket to either lifeless or life, no one is going to hold it too much against Mr. Frazier if he chooses the latter.
I'll have to find a dated video-interview, where he does try to summon the courage to come clean, but either he trails off (a matter of debate) or the host steers the conversation elsewhere before he dares to fully do so.
The video in question isn't this one, but Mr. Frazier sounds like he's delivering a long overdue eulogy for a dear friend ---->
