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Panama Papers
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Magda Hassan Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:Dave's dad is innocent too...

Obviously.

Quote:Fund run by David Cameron's father avoided paying tax in Britain
anama Papers reveal Ian Cameron hired Bahamas residents, including a part-time bishop, to keep offshore company exempt

Asked if there was still any family money invested in the fund, she said: "That is a private matter."

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That Tweet from Snowden says it all doesn't it...
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#22
The question I keep asking myself is who leaked these papers and how did they get at them? Quickly followed by who benefits?

The following interactive map of the everyone around world involved might give some clues. Me, I look for absence of activity, but that's just me...

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The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#23
I have heard it reported that there is a whole motherlode coming soon about the US corporations and people.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:I've been having a bit of a look at the company Mossack Fonesca. It is a partnership between 2 lawyers. Jurgen Mossack's father was in the SS and Wikipeadia is very vague but says he ended up working for the US as a spy against Cuba and ended up in Panama. Has Paperclip type ratline written all over it.

More here from the ICIJ:
Quote:Mossack was born in Germany in 1948. He moved to Panama with his family in the early 1960s, according to his law partner.
Mossack's father had been a member of the Waffen-SS, the notorious armed wing of the Nazi Party during World War II, according to U.S. Army intelligence files obtained by ICIJ.
After the war the father offered his services to the U.S. government as an informant, the files show, claiming "he was about to join a clandestine organization, either of former Nazis now turned Communist . . . or of unconverted Nazis cloaking themselves as Communists." An Army intelligence officer wrote that the offer to spy for the U.S. might simply be "a shrewd attempt to get out of an awkward situation."
Nevertheless, the old intelligence files indicate that Mossack's father later ended up in Panama, where he offered to spy, this time for the CIA, on Communist activity in nearby Cuba.
After earning a law degree in Panama in 1973, the son worked for a time as a lawyer in London before returning to Panama to start the firm that he would later merge to form Mossack Fonseca & Co.

Daily Mail has this to add about the Mossack family:
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Panama 'tax scam' lawyer is son of Nazi SS officer from dreaded Death's Head division who fled to South America then SPIED on Cuba for the CIA, brother reveals

  • Horst Mossack is German half-brother of Panama lawyer Jürgen Mossack
  • Told MailOnline unmasking of his sibling is 'shocking news, astounding'
  • Father was in the S.S. and after is thought to have been a CIA spy in Cuba
  • Horst was treated as shameful as a child after being born out of wedlock
  • Last saw half-brother Jürgen 60 years ago and says will never meet again
By Allan Hall In Berlin for MailOnline and Isabel Hunter and Imogen Calderwood For Mailonline
Published: 20:31 EST, 4 April 2016 | Updated: 00:18 EST, 5 April 2016
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The half-brother of Panama lawyer Jürgen Mossack (pictured) revealed that his father was a Nazi S.S. officer during the war, before spying on Cuba for CIA

The man behind a Panama 'tax scam' that guards the clandestine wealth of the global elite is the son of a Nazi SS officer from a unit known as the 'Death's Head division'.
Jürgen Mossack is at the heart of the biggest financial data leak in history, and has allegedly been helping world leaders, politicians and celebrities launder money, dodge sanctions and evade tax from his base in Panama.
It has now been revealed that his father, Erhard Mossack, was a member of the Nazi fighting unit known as the 'Death's Head division', a dreaded force during the Second World War.
Today, his half-brother Horst, has spoken of his 'shock and bewilderment' at the news of the unmasking of his half-brother.
He described the twisted family history that led to the estrangement of the siblings, both of whom raised by a man who not only fought with the Nazis but later joined the CIA to carry out espionage on Cuba.
The 68-year-old Horst last saw his sibling Jürgen 60 years ago when he left the town of Fürth in Bavaria bearing the name of his father Erhard.
Now living in the Black Forest region of Germany, Horst was born out of wedlock to a woman called Luisa Herzog.
'This was shameful in those days so I was put up for adoption,' he told MailOnline. 'My mother later went on to marry Erhard Mossack. I took that name later.
'What has come out of Panama is shocking news, astounding, bewildering even, but I can't say I feel shame because I have no connection in reality with him.
'I left all those years ago and we never had contact again. He was just a child, so how can I say what I remember of him? All I know is that I heard that he went to London and lived there for quite some time.




'He has a brother called Peter and a sister called Marion in Germany. Both my mother and their father are now dead.
'I remember that Erhard Mossack, their father, was in the S.S. I believe after the war he became a journalist.'
German media have reported that Erhard served as a Rottenfuehrer - roughly corresponding to a senior corporal - in the Waffen, or fighting arm, of the dreaded S.S.
What has come out of Panama is shocking news, astounding, bewildering even, but I can't say I feel shame because I have no connection in reality with him.
Horst Mossack, half-brother of 'Panama Papers' lawyer Jürgen Mossack



The Sueddeutsche Zeitung in Munich, one of the publications in the global alliance of newspapers which unmasked the activities of Jürgen Mossack's firm in Panama, said Erhard served in a 'Death's Head' unit of the S.S.
These were the units which ran the concentration camps. But if he was in the Waffen S.S. it probably meant he served in the Third Waffen S.S. Panzer Division Totenkopf.
Most of the division's initial enlisted men were recruited from concentration camp guards and others were members of militias that had committed war crimes in Poland.
Due to its insignia, it was sometimes referred to as the 'Death's Head Division'. Members of the division committed war crimes - one of them against British soldiers.
The Le Paradis massacre was carried out by members of the 14th Company of the division.
It took place on May 27 1940, during the Battle of France, at a time when the British Expeditionary Force was attempting to retreat through the Pas-de-Calais region during the Battle of Dunkirk.
Soldiers of the 2nd Battalion, the Royal Norfolk Regiment, had become isolated from their regiment. They occupied and defended a farmhouse against an attack by Waffen S.S. forces in the village of Le Paradis. After running out of ammunition, the defenders surrendered to the German troops.
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Erhard is reported to have served as a Rottenfuehrer - roughly corresponding to a senior corporal - in the Waffen, or fighting arm, of the dreaded S.S. Pictured, members of the S.S. Totenkopf Division

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The Le Paradis massacre was carried out by members of the 14th Company of the division known as the 'Death's Head Division' due to its insignia. Pictured, the site of the barbaric Le Paradis massacre

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British soldiers had become isolated from their regiment and occupied and defended a farmhouse (pictured) against an attack by Waffen S.S. forces in the village of Le Paradis. They eventually surrendered to the Germans, but were machine-gunned after surrendering with survivors killed with bayonets

But the Germans machine-gunned the men after surrendering, with survivors killed with bayonets. Two men survived with injuries, and were hidden by locals until they were captured by German forces several days later.
According to the Sueddeutsche, Erhard was captured by the Americans in Munich after the war with a list of Nazi 'Werewolf' members upon him.
The Werewolf units were intended to fight on as a guerrilla force after the surrender, but this never happened.
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Jürgen also has a brother and sister, Peter (pictured) and Marion, who returned to German in the 70s. Peter is the Honorary Consul for Panama in Frankfurt

The newspaper said it applied to the German Federal Intelligence Service, the BND, for information about him. The BND confirmed documents existed on him but said they would not be released becauve this could endanger 'the well-being of the Federal Republic of Germany or one of its members'.
In 1948 he left Germany with his family to settle in Panama, and later returned to Munich with his wife during the 70s. He died in the 1990s, his wife followed five years ago.
According to reports, U.S. Army intelligence archives hold a file on him as he allegedly offered his services to the U.S. government as an informant, claiming 'he was about to join a clandestine organisation, either of former Nazis now turned Communist... or of unconverted Nazis cloaking themselves as Communists.'
An Army intelligence officer wrote that the offer to spy for the U.S. might simply be 'a shrewd attempt to get out of an awkward situation'.
Nevertheless, the old intelligence files indicate that Mossack's father later ended up in Panama, where he offered to spy, this time for the CIA, on Communist activity in nearby Cuba.
The children Peter and Marion returned to Germany in the 1970s; brother Peter is the Honorary Consul for Panama based in Frankfurt.
In 1952 a book by Erhard Mossack was published in Germany called The Last Days of Nuremberg, detailing the capture of the city to American forces in 1945.
Horst Mossack says he believes the father of Jürgen was the author.
He added; 'I don't expect I will ever see Jürgen again. If I did I would ask him exactly what went on.'
Meanwhile, the second man behind the Panama firm, a lawyer named Ramon Fonseca Mora, has been revealed to be an award-winning novelist famous for his salacious plots.
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The second man behind the Panama firm, a lawyer named Ramon Fonseca Mora, has been revealed to be an award-winning novelist famous for his salacious plots

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Fonseca is currently on a leave of absence, according to the ICIJ, which is part of 100 outlets to have worked together on the leak











But the 63-year-old Panama native's storylines may cut closer to home than his readers realise.
As a young man Fonseca reportedly wanted to be a priest, before age and materialism took over. On joining forces with partner Mossack, he told a journalist in 2012, 'Together, we have created a monster.'
In among accounts he follows on Twitter are a fair amount of 18+ accounts - at first glance the naked bottom of 'Horny Cherry' sits alongside the official account of the President of Argentina Mauricio Macri.
Fonseca is currently on a leave of absence, according to the ICIJ, which is part of 100 outlets to have worked together on the leak.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#25
Magda Hassan Wrote:I have heard it reported that there is a whole motherlode coming soon about the US corporations and people.

Let's hope so...
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#26
Magda Hassan Wrote:[quote=Magda Hassan]
Jürgen also has a brother and sister, Peter (pictured) and Marion, who returned to German in the 70s. Peter is the Honorary Consul for Panama in Frankfurt

The newspaper said it applied to the German Federal Intelligence Service, the BND, for information about him. The BND confirmed documents existed on him but said they would not be released becauve this could endanger 'the well-being of the Federal Republic of Germany or one of its members'.
In 1948 he left Germany with his family to settle in Panama, and later returned to Munich with his wife during the 70s. He died in the 1990s, his wife followed five years ago.
According to reports, U.S. Army intelligence archives hold a file on him as he allegedly offered his services to the U.S. government as an informant, claiming 'he was about to join a clandestine organisation, either of former Nazis now turned Communist... or of unconverted Nazis cloaking themselves as Communists.'
An Army intelligence officer wrote that the offer to spy for the U.S. might simply be 'a shrewd attempt to get out of an awkward situation'.
Nevertheless, the old intelligence files indicate that Mossack's father later ended up in Panama, where he offered to spy, this time for the CIA, on Communist activity in nearby Cuba.

Interesting what the BND have to say, I think.

Also, a curious sort of synchronicity here. Perhaps. I note that two books by John Le Carre, The Tailor of Panama, and Graham Greene's The Honorary Consul - the former set in Panama about spies and power and the latter set in the border region of Argentina and Paraguay about overthrowing the Nazi leaning Paraguayan dictatorship of the time.

It's one of those Mmmm moments.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#27
David Guyatt Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:I've been having a bit of a look at the company Mossack Fonesca. It is a partnership between 2 lawyers. Jurgen Mossack's father was in the SS and Wikipeadia is very vague but says he ended up working for the US as a spy against Cuba and ended up in Panama. Has Paperclip type ratline written all over it.

More here from the ICIJ:
Quote:Mossack was born in Germany in 1948. He moved to Panama with his family in the early 1960s, according to his law partner.
Mossack's father had been a member of the Waffen-SS, the notorious armed wing of the Nazi Party during World War II, according to U.S. Army intelligence files obtained by ICIJ.
After the war the father offered his services to the U.S. government as an informant, the files show, claiming "he was about to join a clandestine organization, either of former Nazis now turned Communist . . . or of unconverted Nazis cloaking themselves as Communists." An Army intelligence officer wrote that the offer to spy for the U.S. might simply be "a shrewd attempt to get out of an awkward situation."
Nevertheless, the old intelligence files indicate that Mossack's father later ended up in Panama, where he offered to spy, this time for the CIA, on Communist activity in nearby Cuba.
After earning a law degree in Panama in 1973, the son worked for a time as a lawyer in London before returning to Panama to start the firm that he would later merge to form Mossack Fonseca & Co.

Oh boy, this could also have a connection to the Bormann Brotherhood and their investing of Nazi loot throughout the world. Maybe. Perhaps.

David Guyatt Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Jürgen also has a brother and sister, Peter (pictured) and Marion, who returned to German in the 70s. Peter is the Honorary Consul for Panama in Frankfurt

The newspaper said it applied to the German Federal Intelligence Service, the BND, for information about him. The BND confirmed documents existed on him but said they would not be released becauve this could endanger 'the well-being of the Federal Republic of Germany or one of its members'.
In 1948 he left Germany with his family to settle in Panama, and later returned to Munich with his wife during the 70s. He died in the 1990s, his wife followed five years ago.
According to reports, U.S. Army intelligence archives hold a file on him as he allegedly offered his services to the U.S. government as an informant, claiming 'he was about to join a clandestine organisation, either of former Nazis now turned Communist... or of unconverted Nazis cloaking themselves as Communists.'
An Army intelligence officer wrote that the offer to spy for the U.S. might simply be 'a shrewd attempt to get out of an awkward situation'.
Nevertheless, the old intelligence files indicate that Mossack's father later ended up in Panama, where he offered to spy, this time for the CIA, on Communist activity in nearby Cuba.

Interesting what the BND have to say, I think.

Also, a curious sort of synchronicity here. Perhaps. I note that two books by John Le Carre, The Tailor of Panama, and Graham Greene's The Honorary Consul - the former set in Panama about spies and power and the latter set in the border region of Argentina and Paraguay about overthrowing the Nazi leaning Paraguayan dictatorship of the time.

It's one of those Mmmm moments.

Yes, very interesting what the BND say. If he were just some plain old German even with a Nazi background there should be no big deal. Almost all men of that age would have had Nazi membership. Rare not to. So what's the big secret? /sarcasm

And very curious synchronicity about the books too. Mmmm....indeed

I keep thinking about all that Borman Brotherhood Nazi gold and think what better way to hide your own stolen loot than amongst all the other crooks and thieves loot. And what wonderful leverage having all that knowledge would be knowing where all the real secrets are and who belongs to those real secrets. Mmmm......
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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Magda Hassan Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:I've been having a bit of a look at the company Mossack Fonesca. It is a partnership between 2 lawyers. Jurgen Mossack's father was in the SS and Wikipeadia is very vague but says he ended up working for the US as a spy against Cuba and ended up in Panama. Has Paperclip type ratline written all over it.

More here from the ICIJ:
Quote:Mossack was born in Germany in 1948. He moved to Panama with his family in the early 1960s, according to his law partner.
Mossack's father had been a member of the Waffen-SS, the notorious armed wing of the Nazi Party during World War II, according to U.S. Army intelligence files obtained by ICIJ.
After the war the father offered his services to the U.S. government as an informant, the files show, claiming "he was about to join a clandestine organization, either of former Nazis now turned Communist . . . or of unconverted Nazis cloaking themselves as Communists." An Army intelligence officer wrote that the offer to spy for the U.S. might simply be "a shrewd attempt to get out of an awkward situation."
Nevertheless, the old intelligence files indicate that Mossack's father later ended up in Panama, where he offered to spy, this time for the CIA, on Communist activity in nearby Cuba.
After earning a law degree in Panama in 1973, the son worked for a time as a lawyer in London before returning to Panama to start the firm that he would later merge to form Mossack Fonseca & Co.

Oh boy, this could also have a connection to the Bormann Brotherhood and their investing of Nazi loot throughout the world. Maybe. Perhaps.

David Guyatt Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Jürgen also has a brother and sister, Peter (pictured) and Marion, who returned to German in the 70s. Peter is the Honorary Consul for Panama in Frankfurt

The newspaper said it applied to the German Federal Intelligence Service, the BND, for information about him. The BND confirmed documents existed on him but said they would not be released becauve this could endanger 'the well-being of the Federal Republic of Germany or one of its members'.
In 1948 he left Germany with his family to settle in Panama, and later returned to Munich with his wife during the 70s. He died in the 1990s, his wife followed five years ago.
According to reports, U.S. Army intelligence archives hold a file on him as he allegedly offered his services to the U.S. government as an informant, claiming 'he was about to join a clandestine organisation, either of former Nazis now turned Communist... or of unconverted Nazis cloaking themselves as Communists.'
An Army intelligence officer wrote that the offer to spy for the U.S. might simply be 'a shrewd attempt to get out of an awkward situation'.
Nevertheless, the old intelligence files indicate that Mossack's father later ended up in Panama, where he offered to spy, this time for the CIA, on Communist activity in nearby Cuba.

Interesting what the BND have to say, I think.

Also, a curious sort of synchronicity here. Perhaps. I note that two books by John Le Carre, The Tailor of Panama, and Graham Greene's The Honorary Consul - the former set in Panama about spies and power and the latter set in the border region of Argentina and Paraguay about overthrowing the Nazi leaning Paraguayan dictatorship of the time.

It's one of those Mmmm moments.

Yes, very interesting what the BND say. If he were just some plain old German even with a Nazi background there should be no big deal. Almost all men of that age would have had Nazi membership. Rare not to. So what's the big secret? /sarcasm

And very curious synchronicity about the books too. Mmmm....indeed

I keep thinking about all that Borman Brotherhood Nazi gold and think what better way to hide your own stolen loot than amongst all the other crooks and thieves loot. And what wonderful leverage having all that knowledge would be knowing where all the real secrets are and who belongs to those real secrets. Mmmm......

Exactly. The Maison Rouge Hotel plan was to warehouse all of it through their overseas "friends" and launder and invest it through 750 companies/corporations worldwide.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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An Erhard Mossack turns up in the Harry Brunser Report. If this is the same person, it seems that Jürgen Mossack's father was brought out of Germany as part of Operation Overcast:

https://operationovercast.wordpress.com/...er_report/

(sic!)

Is Harry Brunser trustworthy?
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Would be interesting to know more about him. Supposedly a corporal. What was his day job before the SS waffen. Why was he selected? They weren't interested in Cuban communists in 1946. Date of arrival in Panama and work elsewhere before then. Activity in Panama. Questions questions.
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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