10-05-2016, 07:53 PM
Scott Kaiser Wrote:Jim DiEugenio Wrote:http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploa...396190.jpg
This is what I mean.
What I would give to hear what Trump whispered in Cruz's ear.
"You're dead meat buddy."
Ted Cruz
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10-05-2016, 07:53 PM
Scott Kaiser Wrote:Jim DiEugenio Wrote:http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploa...396190.jpg "You're dead meat buddy."
10-05-2016, 07:54 PM
BTW, I just did a BOR on this subject with Len Osanic.
Will be on this Thursday night.
10-05-2016, 09:59 PM
http://www.globalresearch.ca/donald-trum...cs/5524156
Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, and CIA-Cuban "Deep Politics" By Larry Chin Global Research, May 09, 2016 (image) Rafael Cruz During a Fox News telephone interview in which he criticized his fellow presidential aspirant Senator Ted Cruz, Donald Trump cut loose with potshot that Cruz's father, Rafael Cruz, was involved with Lee Harvey Oswald and the assassination of president John F. Kennedy. Shortly after this incident, Ted Cruz ended his 2016 presidential bid. But the incident itself and its ramifications remain significant. The fact that Trump dared bring up the JFK assassination is remarkable. It is a further demonstration that Trump is unpredictableand why he is feared and reviled by the Washington establishment and ruling elite. Whether it was done thoughtlessly or with more studied intent, it does not matter. In evoking the JFK assassination, Trump yanked aside the curtain of secrecy just enough to cause a small firestorm, allowing another glimpse at the forbidden truth that the American elite has spent 53 years covering up. Trump's statement and the media counterattack Here is a clip of the Trump interview: In it, Trump says: "His (Cruz's) father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's beingyou know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous. What is this? Right prior to his being shot, and nobody even brings it up. They don't even talk about that. That was reported, and nobody talks about it."
Trump is referring to a report originally written by Wayne Madsen:Was the father of presidential hopeful Ted Cruz involved with the Kennedy assassination? This piece was later picked up by the National Enquirer. Cruz and the mainstream corporate media and its network of CIA-controlled organs swiftly and forcefully attacked Trump, dismissing him as a conspiracy, and the story as insane "tabloid" trash. POLITIFACT, a so-called "fact checking" organ of the "Pulitzer Prize winning" Tampa Bay Times , leaped to Cruz's defense, slapping down Trump as a liar. But they also ignored the Cruz-Oswald-JFK connection, ignoring more than 50 years of historical material and investigation on the CIA and the JFK murder (books by Jim Garrison, Fletcher Prouty, James diEugenio, Mark Lane, Peter Dale Scott, among many others). Amusingly, Ted Cruz himself once called POLITIFACT "noxious yellow journalism". In this case, he should thank them for their embrace of Warren Commission "politi-fiction".) TIME Magazine's counter to the Trump/Cruz/Oswald story was the most telling of all: Donald Trump, Oswald, and Cuba In this piece, TIME simply repeated the CIA's original Kennedy-era propaganda deception that Oswald was a Communist; that the New Orleans leafletting incident should be accepted at face value. According to TIME, "Oswald and Cruz were on different sides", thus rendering Trump's accusation wrong. And that only "conspiracy theorists" could think otherwise. TIME clearly remains one of many CIA propaganda organs, content to repeat the lies of the Warren Commission. The article reads like something that could have been written in 1964. Was Cruz there? Was he CIA? Here is the television clip of the actual August 16, 1963 Oswald event in New Orleans, a key event in the setup of the November 22, 1963 assassination in Dallas: Here are photographic stills of the same event: As exposed by Jim Garrison and numerous JFK researchers (and fictionally depicted in Oliver Stone's film JFK), the CIA began setting up for the JFK assassination by creating a propaganda legend for Oswald, their chosen "patsy". Oswald was set up to appear to be a pro-Castro Communist agent provocateur. What you see is this CIA propaganda operation in motion. Lee Harvey Oswald is handing out pro-Castro leaflets at the International Trade Mart in New Orleans, which at the time was teeming with anti-Castro Cuban exiles, CIA assets intent on murdering JFK. The International Trade Mart was owned by the CIA and run by CIA operative Clay Shaw. Oswald was part of the CIA's Operation Mongoose, code name for numerous covert operations aimed at toppling Fidel Castro, in the wake of the failed Bay of Pigs invasion. The Mongoose team and its network of operatives and assassins also carried out the JFK hit. But Oswald, unbeknownst to him, was being set up. The Newman Building in New Orleans housed the CIA (Guy Bannister's office of 5312 Lafayette Street), Oswald's Fair Play for Cuba Committee FPCC front (544 Camp Street), and numerous anti-Castro groups that it was managing. It also housed offices with Mafia connections. At the behest of his CIA handlers, which included George DeMohrenschildt, Bannister, and Shaw, Oswald's orders were to play a pro-Castro Communist sympathizer for the media cameras. This event also included a "fist fight", staged purely for propaganda deception, with Cuban exile and CIA asset Carlos Bringuier, of the militantly anti-Castro/CIA/Mafia-connected Cuban Revolutionary Council, and the anti-Castro student group, the Directorio Revolucionario Estudiantil), or DRE. This was followed by a radio debate between Oswald and Bringuier, also staged in order to set up Oswald's credentials as a Communist and oddball. Oswald's FPCC leaflets were stamped with the address of 544 Camp Street. Oswald's mistake later infuriated CIA operative Guy Bannister, who found out about it shortly after JFK was killed. Bannister was frantic that his cover would be blown. Here is where we come to the Cuban men helping Oswald hand out leaflets. They have never been identified or they were dismissed in the official assassination panels. But logic dictates that they had to have been CIA assets. The Agency would have allowed outsiders into the midst of a delicate operation. But was one of them Rafael Cruz? According to Wayne Madsen, the man in the photo with Oswald strongly resembles Rafael Cruz, and "there is strong reason to believe that Cruz was associated with the Central Intelligence Agency's anti-Castro operations". Given that the photo and tapes are not clear, there is no way to prove the claim. Veteran JFK assassination researcher and author Jim diEugenio concludes the same. "Because of the questionable source, and the lack of substantiation, the story should have no legs", according to diEugenio. Even if the man in the photo was not Cruz, this still begs the question: was Cruz a CIA asset? That also cannot be proven. But it is reasonable to speculate. The elder Cruz's background is sketchy and full of holes. Rafael Cruz claims to have joined the Cuban revolution as a teenager, and having been tortured by Batista police, but managed to flee Cuba for the United States in 1957. Cruz's account is disputed by Cruz's Cuban peers, his resume as a fighter highly dubious. The tale he has told about his immigration to the United States appears full of deceptions and lies. He claims to have come to the US knowing no English and just $100 sewn into his underwear. Yet he was enrolled in the University of Texas and earned a mathematics degree in short order, all while learning English only by watching movies. But Cruz does claim to have become an outspoken anti-Castro advocate following a return to Cuba in 1959 that soured him permanently on Castro. Did Rafael Cruz become radicalized enough to have joined other Cuban exiles in working for the CIA at any time? After working in Houston consulting for (unnamed) oil companies, Rafael Cruz moved to Canada and became a Canadian citizen in 1973. He started and ran his own seismic mapping company for the oil industry. His son Ted, the eventual Senator, was born in Calgary in 1970. After the family moved yet again back to the US, Rafael became an influential and deeply connected right-wing political player and Dominionist Christian minister in 1975, eventually becoming part of the influential Religious Round Table. While the elder Cruz's activities are circumspect, and he did become deeply connected to Republican inner circles, there is no way to prove that he was an intelligence asset. The Bay of Pigs-CIA-Bush legacy What is certain is contained in the bigger picture, and it is perhaps of greater importance: White House aspirants Ted Cruz and Senator Marco Rubio, whose presidential bid also failed, are end products of the milieu made possible by the Bay of Pigs and the JFK assassination that followed. These politics were, and continue to be, stoked by Washington and the CIA, and the Bush power network in particular. Cruz, and especially Rubio, are direct beneficiaries. Both Rubio and Cruz carry water for the powerful Cuba lobby opposed to the lifting of the embargo on Cuba and all measures towards the warming of relations with the United States. The emergence of right-wing Cuban-Americans to high office, all the way to the White House, helps promote the causes dear to generations of the exile community, while (for the CIA) nurturing the highly useful intelligence/paramilitary cells in Florida and the Gulf states, and into Latin America. The history of right-wing Cuban networks is inextricably connected to the CIAand the Bushes:
Felix Rodriguez and other Bay of Pigs veterans coordinate the contra resupply programs in Latin America under Oliver North and cocaine shipments into the United States, with bases across the American Gulf coast. The operation based in Mena, Arkansas flourishes under then-governor Bill Clinton.
Cruz, Rubio, Bushes There is nothing benign about the Bush family or its power network. Any connection to this network demands scrutiny. After graduating from Princeton in 1992, and Harvard Business School in 1995, Ted Cruz entered politics. In 1999, he was advisor to George W. Bush. As legal advisor to Bush's election campaign, he helped the theft of the White House in the Bush v. Gore case before the Supreme Court. Cruz met his wife Heidi during the Bush campaign. After successful tenures in Texas state offices, Cruz returned to private law practice before becoming a senator in 2012. Despite his having worked for him in the past, George W. Bush recently stated that he "didn't like the guy (Cruz)"a comment that Cruz did not take personally. Nevertheless, Neil Bush (Iran-Contra savings and loan bandit) became Ted Cruz's finance director shortly before Cruz's presidential campaign ended. Jeb Bush endorsed Cruz, also before Cruz quit the race. Marco Rubio's arc is similar to Cruz's but also different. The Rubio's story is also full of inconsistencies, half-truths and lies, many of them promoted by Marco himself. He has been accused of exaggerating his family's flight from Cuba to resemble the stories of anti-Castro fighters who fled persecution. It is closer to fact that the Rubios left Cuba for economic (not political) reasons. Marco's father, Mario, boasted that as an 18- year old, he participated in a failed plot to assassinate Rafael Trujillo of the Dominican Republic. The veracity of this story, which suggests a background as a fighter, is something else that cannot be confirmed. What is known is that the elder Rubio worked in casinos owned by mobster Meyer Lansky (coincidentally a CIA asset), in Florida and Las Vegas. Marco Rubio's political career began in the 1980s as an intern to Cuban-born Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, followed by a fast rise through Florida state politics. Marco Rubio became Congressman in 2000 and Senator in 2010, where he has proven himself to be an aggressive right-winger. For the next several years, Rubio was mentored by Jeb Bush, but the relationship was testy and competitive, akin to a Mafia godfather and an ambitious, ungrateful lieutenant who wants to take over from the boss. Bush-Cuban bid for the White House: failure or harbinger? The 2016 presidential election should have been about the return to power of the Bush network. The deck on the Republican ticket was blatantly stacked with Jeb Bush himself, and Bush products Cruz and Rubio. All three failed. Rubio, considered many to be a Jeb Bush protégé, quit after rudely betraying his former mentor. The Cruz campaign seriously considered the idea of Rubio as vice president on an all-Cuban ticket, but the ambitious Rubio was not interested. Jeb Bush's endorsement of Cruz also failed. The Trump wrecking ball ruined all of it. This raises fascinating questions. Why wasn't one of these Bush cabal options successfully pushed forward? How and why has Donald Trump gotten this far? What has prevented the usual powers that be from somehow removing Trump from contention? Will he remain a wildcard, or will he eventually be pressured (threatened) into behaving more like an establishment politician? Where are the Bilderbergers and New World Order types, who usually choreograph "elections" well in advance? They are massing behind Hillary Clintonwho is the continuation of the line of succession going back to the murder in Dealey Plaza. The Clintons are closely associated with the Bushes. Their networks overlap, their geopolitics shared. In the most important ways, Bill and Hillary Clinton have always been Bushes. Meanwhile, do not expect Cruz and Rubio, or the Bushes, or the militant Cuban Lobby to disappear. Rubio, who is still young, especially seems hell-bent on another run at the White House. Jeb's half-Mexican son George P. Bush is a rising star in Texas, and his steady rise up the Republican ranks is a calculated appeal to Latin and Cuban sympathies. The CIA is stronger, more omnipresent, and untouchable than at any time in history. The world drug trade is flourishing. Wall Street is enjoying a new golden age. And the assassination of John F. Kennedy remains the subject of intense cover-up and a deafening silence that is breached only when someone audacious dares bring it up, for reasons both good as well as noxious. The original source of this article is Global Research
10-05-2016, 11:29 PM
Tracy Riddle Wrote:It's depressing how pervasive some of these JFK-assassination related myths are. The Secret Service-agent-shot-JFK-by-mistake theory is all over the internet and is actively promoted on various cable TV channels. My opinion, the reason why this particular explanation is persistent is that it is forensically and ballistically on more sound scientific footing than the Warren Commission findings (and probably the HSCA findings). I know Bob P. is not a supporter of this theory, but Bob's work is a pretty convincing demonstration that the bullets behaved like more than 1 kind of bullet. The AR-15 bullet behaves quite differently after it strikes than the MC91/38 bullet. In addition, it offers the somewhat comforting possibility that the assassination was not a coup d'état but still explains the existence of a massive and willing post-assassination cover-up. There is one other curious matter that, to the suspicious mind, lends credence to this theory. Howard(?) Donaghue [the gun guy that: a.) was one of only two guys in the US that actually replicated Oswald's alleged feat (3 hits in 7 sec. to a moving target from the correct altitude and distance) and b.) was the independent researcher that subsequently rejected the WC findings and originated this idea] actually went to Washington to participate in the HSCA, with his work and his findings, sat in the hearing room for a couple days, and wasn't allowed to give testimony.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis." Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease." Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
11-05-2016, 12:03 AM
If you're looking for deeper currents, as it were, reflected in outward politics, could it be possible that the humiliating defeat of these candidates that oppose Cuban-US rapprochement is a sign that the "powers that be" are now determined to re-integrate Cuba into the Western World? (maybe we traded Crimea to get Cuba?) That would also explain Obama's unexpected, sort of stealthy, and seemingly sudden normalization of relations. I hear the MSM claiming that Obama's just doing anything to manufacture for himself a "legacy," but I kinda doubt that's all there is to it.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)
James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis." Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease." Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
11-05-2016, 01:05 AM
What's scary is Cuba will have a motive to deter truth-seeking in the Kennedy assassination in order to maintain good economic relations with the US. The ultimate irony at the expense of Jack Kennedy.
11-05-2016, 09:55 AM
Albert Doyle Wrote:What's scary is Cuba will have a motive to deter truth-seeking in the Kennedy assassination in order to maintain good economic relations with the US. The ultimate irony at the expense of Jack Kennedy. Absolutely not. The Cubans have been very co-operative when it comes to sharing information about the events of that day. The Cubans care not for Kennedy and far less for any one that followed including Obama. But they have always been scrupulous with the truth. And there is no way they are going to be the US bitch again for any one. The US isn't the only country they can trade with.
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