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Brzezinski Backs Away from US Global Dominance - Says Let's Make Frieds with Russia & China
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Funny that Russia is so far behind in "pivoting" to Asia, seeing as it's already mostly in Asia. By "behind" I mean behind the US, that in 2012, under Obama and Clinton, publicly began a "pivot" to Asia. However, it began earlier than that. Clinton advocated for something much like the "pivot" in 2011 in the article "America's Pacific Century". In 2009, "Clinton fought hard to get the China file and lead the comprehensive dialog with China," according to wiki, (ousting Joe Biden) and it is perhaps unsurprising that some of the large donors to the Clinton Foundation are said to be from China.


Russia may well appear to be supporting Trump for the simple reason that the Clintons have had an apparently mutually beneficial arrangement with China since 1994, when Bill granted "Most Favored Nation" trade status to the Chinese, despite the ongoing widespread human rights violations there. Also, remember "Loral-gate", where at around the same time (1996) that the CEO of Loral Space gave 1.5 million dollars to Bill and other Democrats, that Loral Space obtained licenses to export sensitive US missile technology to China?


I don't think that "containing" China is part of the Clinton game plan, but I am confident that profiting from improved relations with China is.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

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Drew Phipps Wrote:Funny that Russia is so far behind in "pivoting" to Asia, seeing as it's already mostly in Asia. By "behind" I mean behind the US, that in 2012, under Obama and Clinton, publicly began a "pivot" to Asia. However, it began earlier than that. Clinton advocated for something much like the "pivot" in 2011 in the article "America's Pacific Century". In 2009, "Clinton fought hard to get the China file and lead the comprehensive dialog with China," according to wiki, (ousting Joe Biden) and it is perhaps unsurprising that some of the large donors to the Clinton Foundation are said to be from China.


Russia may well appear to be supporting Trump for the simple reason that the Clintons have had an apparently mutually beneficial arrangement with China since 1994, when Bill granted "Most Favored Nation" trade status to the Chinese, despite the ongoing widespread human rights violations there. Also, remember "Loral-gate", where at around the same time (1996) that the CEO of Loral Space gave 1.5 million dollars to Bill and other Democrats, that Loral Space obtained licenses to export sensitive US missile technology to China?


I don't think that "containing" China is part of the Clinton game plan, but I am confident that profiting from improved relations with China is.

I think it was most generous of China to overlook America's grotesque record of slaughter, torture, invasion, subversion, racially-based mass-incarceration, elite corruption, and indebtedness.

But then I'm not an Exceptional One.
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
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Maybe the Chinese just aren't hypocritical enough to ignore their own record of such abuses.
"All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."
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Paul Rigby Wrote:There will be blood. Hillary Clinton smells it already from Syria to Iran to the South China Sea. The question is whether she and virtually the whole Beltway establishment behind her will be mad enough to provoke RC and buy a one-way ticket to post-MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) territory.
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That, of course, is the real fear. Will the nutters in Washington misplay their hands?

Syria is now a powder-keg with so many players, including the three main protagonists, US, Russia and China directly militarily involved.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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