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A Personal Journey to Reality
#11
David Guyatt Wrote:I didn't know about the German translation of the Grand Chessboard (I read this equally noxious book decades ago btw), but am not really surprised. Things are somewhat changing in Germany and Europe now but Merkel has been a US pawn in the past. Sad. But I live in the ultimate poodle paradise when it comes to having an elite that bends over every time America coughs. I suspect that the UK will be the very last nation on earth to cut the binding ties from Washington...
I am not sure about the power structure at the top, sometimes it seems to me that there are lots of British shadow players trying to get the US trying to do its bidding. And there is the israeli element, sometimes leading the US around as a poodle. In the period of 911 I definitely see Saudi and Pakistani traces as well.
The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".
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#12
Paul Craig Roberts, a former assistant secretary to the Treasury in the Reagan administration, and a former asst. editor of the Wall Street Journal succinctly shreds the official 9/11 story below, revealing some (but far from all) of the notable inconsistencies:

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Some of the Many Things Most Americans Never Heard About 9/11



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Some of the Many Things Most Americans Never Heard About 9/11[/FONT]
Paul Craig Roberts[/FONT]
The "Dancing Israelis" who turned out to be Israeli Mossad agents caught filming and celebrating the destruction of the twin towers. Arrested by police and released without investigation, they were not mentioned in the 911 Commission Report. Later on Israeli TV they said they were sent to New York to film the destruction of the twin towers. Allegedly, there was no advance warning of the event, but obviously the Israelis knew. [/FONT]
The alleged fundamentalist orthodox fanatical Muslims who were prepared to die to be martyrs, but who drank, drugged, and lived with strippers and prostitutes in Florida. They were the patsies paraded through flight schools and left a highly visible public record. They all flunked out and could not even fly small planes, but performed miraculous flight feats in their attacks on the WTC towers and Pentagon that military and civilian airline pilots say are beyond their own skills. These Saudi Arabians were being operated by US or Israeli intelligence to create a record to serve as a parallel patsy operation that could be used to cover up the false flag attack.[/FONT]
Numerous video cameras recorded whatever exploded at the Pentagon, but the FBI has refused to release them for 18 years. Clearly, the videos do not support the official story.[/FONT]
About half of the alleged hijackers have been found alive and well and deny that they had ever left their countries. [/FONT]
In 2001 no cell phone calls were possible from aircraft at the altitudes from which calls were reported. [/FONT]
The airliners that allegedly hit the twin towers were flimsy compared to the steel and concrete of the towers. The airliners would have smashed against the structure and fallen to the street below.[/FONT]
Pre-knowledge of 9/11 was widespread. The stocks of the two allegedly hijacked airlines were sold short prior to the event, resulting in large profits when the stocks fell in response to the hijackings. The short-sellers were swept under the carpet and not investigated.[/FONT]
FBI director Robert Mueller was instrumental in covering up for the false official story of 9/11, a story that has zero evidence in its behalf.[/FONT]
If a handful of young men with no intelligence service or government support can defeat the entire national security state of the United States and all of its NATO and Israeli allies and successfully attack with devastating results both New York and the Pentagon itselfthe very symbol of American military supremacythe Soviet Union could have wiped out the US and all of Europe without detection. Don't you wonder how we survived the Soviet Union when the "Great American Superpower" was so easily defeated by a handful of young Saudi Arabians?[/FONT]
Four hijacked airliners are alleged hijacked, all at airports served by an Israeli security company. All four airliners allegedly crash. Two into the WTC towers, one into a field in Pennsylvania, and one into the Pentagon. Yet no airliner debris exists. The Pentagon's lawn is not even scratched.[/FONT]
The President of the United States refuses to testify before the 9/11 Commission unless he is accompanied by his handler, Vice President Cheney. Both refuse to testify under oath. The 9/11 Commission is oh-so-respectful to the distinguished president and vice president.[/FONT]
One member of the 9/11 Commission, a US Senator, resigned from the Commission, saying that "the fix is in." After the Commission report was issued, the Commission chairman, vice chairman, and legal counsel wrote books in which they said that information was withheld from the Commission, that the Commission was lied to and considered referring the false testimony to the Justice (sic) Department for prosecution, and that "the Commission was set up to fail." And not a peep from the controlled pressitute media whose only function is to deliver the controlled explanations that the ruling oligarchs want planted into Americans' minds.[/FONT]
Tenants of the WTC buildings reported constant noises, floors sealed off, service disruptions and that the excuse was the installation of fiber optic cable. If the buildings faced condemnation as reported because of asbestos fireproofing, who would go to the expense of installing fiber optic cable to upgrade the Internet capability of condemned buildings?[/FONT]
Scientists have found reacted and unreacted nano-thermite and other elements used in controlled demolition. They have proved the existence of these elements. They have samples from the WTC dust left which they have offered to scientists and governments for testing in order to prove or disprove their own findings. No takers.[/FONT]
Instead, we have the appearance of nonsensical claims that the WTC buildings were brought down by a directed energy weapon and by nuclear bombs. These are preposterous allegations, the purpose of which is the deliberate creation of disinformation in order to focus attention away from the false official story and bury it in disagreements about what caused the buildings to fail.[/FONT]
I have checked with weapons specialists who are critics of US government foreign policy and who monitor every development in weapon systems in the US and Russia. This is what they tell me: "I can confidently state that no direct energy weapon, capable of demolishing such a structure at the Twin Towers, existed in 2001, nor does it exist today."[/FONT]
Another reported that there are lab tests of directed energy in Russia but no deployed weapon. He suggested that people who believe in this fantasy story should explain the safe source of high energy that the alleged weapon used, and how it was moved on site and removed without detection. Moreover, a directed energy burst would show on detectors which monitor the electromagnetic spectrum. No such evidence exists. Since no such weapon has ever been tested to bring down skyscrapers, why would the government take the risk of using such a weapon for the first time in a public scenario where who knows what could go wrong and explanations would have to be given? And why reveal to foreign powers the existence of such a weapon? Controlled demolition is an old and familiar technology that works. And it did.[/FONT]
I could go on and on. [/FONT]
As I wrote in a previous column, when Americans fell for the 9/11 deception, they lost their country, and peoples in seven countries lost their lives, limbs, and families.[/FONT]

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/09...bout-9-11/
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#13
Paul Craig Roberts is a good man and most of what is in the list is most likely true, but this is not, how the Justice System is supposed to work. In a functioning Justice System the system would make investigations, name suspects, come to conclusions and then prosecute certain individual people. Or not.
But here, the Justice system is unwilling and/or unable to even start an investigation, despite of more than enough circumstantioal evidence, no previous investigation (No, the Commission was not an investigation) and thousands of people demanding one.
As long as no investigation is started, the system is dead. The question would be, how can it be restarted?
One big problem is the declaration that was signed be all receivers of the compensation fund. A declaration like this should be illegal und therefore null and void.
On the other hand, the state prosecutors have to get active, not the victims. A dead man cannot sue his murderer, only the state can and must do so. As long as the system is dead in the water, nothing but a revolution can overcome the deadlock.
The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".
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#14
Another thing: In Germany, France, Britain and the other Nato countries including Turkey, there should be the realization that the article 5 support for the self defense in response to the attacks of 9/11 should terminate immediately. How can any proud nation with the biggest military on earth still need the support of its allies in self defense after all the "attackers" are long dead? 18 years of kindergarden should be enough, time to grow up.

If, on the other hand, this should be impossible, than NATO is finished, in the eyes of the population, at least.
The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".
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#15
Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:I didn't know about the German translation of the Grand Chessboard (I read this equally noxious book decades ago btw), but am not really surprised. Things are somewhat changing in Germany and Europe now but Merkel has been a US pawn in the past. Sad. But I live in the ultimate poodle paradise when it comes to having an elite that bends over every time America coughs. I suspect that the UK will be the very last nation on earth to cut the binding ties from Washington...
I am not sure about the power structure at the top, sometimes it seems to me that there are lots of British shadow players trying to get the US trying to do its bidding. And there is the israeli element, sometimes leading the US around as a poodle. In the period of 911 I definitely see Saudi and Pakistani traces as well.

Agreed re the Brits. My own view, for what its worth, is that there were three main stooges working on 9/11: the Saudi element, the Israeli element and the British element. All three connect back to Poppy Bush and all played their part in the Iran-Contra affair.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#16
Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:Paul Craig Roberts is a good man and most of what is in the list is most likely true, but this is not, how the Justice System is supposed to work. In a functioning Justice System the system would make investigations, name suspects, come to conclusions and then prosecute certain individual people. Or not.
But here, the Justice system is unwilling and/or unable to even start an investigation, despite of more than enough circumstantioal evidence, no previous investigation (No, the Commission was not an investigation) and thousands of people demanding one.
As long as no investigation is started, the system is dead. The question would be, how can it be restarted?
One big problem is the declaration that was signed be all receivers of the compensation fund. A declaration like this should be illegal und therefore null and void.
On the other hand, the state prosecutors have to get active, not the victims. A dead man cannot sue his murderer, only the state can and must do so. As long as the system is dead in the water, nothing but a revolution can overcome the deadlock.

Yes, the system is dead. The structure of government is controlled by a tiny elite. This won't change, in my opinion, until the US implodes financially, which I believe it will in due course. The current $23 trillion national debt is unsustainable especially once foreign held dollars can no longer be attracted inwards to service that massive debt. This will happen, I think, once the US dollar loses is status as the world's reserve currency. This is my working theory anyway.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#17
David Guyatt Wrote:
Anthony Thorne Wrote:Good discussion.

Robert Kagan invokes Pearl Harbor imagery on the first page of his opening essay in the 2000 volume PRESENT DANGERS: CRISIS AND OPPORTUNITY IN AMERICA'S FOREIGN AND DEFENCE POLICY. That book features a contributed essay by Wolfowitz, has a spooky blood-red title design on the dark cover, and appears slanted to a readership familiar with the prior activities of the Committee on the Present Danger. A degree further and Kagan could have simply titled the book GET READY, BOYS, with a picture of a big arrow pointing towards the WTC complex, but caution obviously won out.

Anthony, do you remember a Yank naval officer dating back to the late 1990's (I forget his name, but he wasn't a particularly nice guy based on the communications I had with him) who wrote a book that, at the end, prophesied that the Bush family would ensure there would be a major US cataclysmic event in the new millennium. He claimed this was to make sure that the massive crimes of the Bush family never came to light because Poppy Bush realised if Americans found out about them they would all be hung from the trees.

I didn't regard him as particularly honest type - he had worked for the Bush family in a covert role - but that para or two caught my eye. It could all have been balls of course, but when 9/11 happened I remembered it. If I remember his name I'll post back to post it here.

PS, I'm not suggesting that should what he said have any validity, this would be the only reason (Bush family crimes) behind 9/11. These deep events usually happen when a confluence or compelling reasons combine to form an irresistible decision. And I seem to remember a report that the Bush family bought a massive ranch in Latin American (Paraguay) that had no extradition treaty with the US and the speculation was that this could be used to bail out to in case of need. However, I didn't do any digging to see if the story had legs or was simply another one of the numerous unsubstantiated conspiracy theories we encounter on a regular basis).

PS, just remembered the guy's name: Lt. Cmdr Al Martin in his book The Conspirators published in early 2001 but written in the late 1990's. I was sent a copy of the MS by Uri Dowbenko who represented Martin in getting his book published. I didn't find the book or Martin particularly outstanding and I found the author very self-serving. These former covert types are often less than trustworthy.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#18
David Guyatt Wrote:
Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:I didn't know about the German translation of the Grand Chessboard (I read this equally noxious book decades ago btw), but am not really surprised. Things are somewhat changing in Germany and Europe now but Merkel has been a US pawn in the past. Sad. But I live in the ultimate poodle paradise when it comes to having an elite that bends over every time America coughs. I suspect that the UK will be the very last nation on earth to cut the binding ties from Washington...
I am not sure about the power structure at the top, sometimes it seems to me that there are lots of British shadow players trying to get the US trying to do its bidding. And there is the israeli element, sometimes leading the US around as a poodle. In the period of 911 I definitely see Saudi and Pakistani traces as well.

Agreed re the Brits. My own view, for what its worth, is that there were three main stooges working on 9/11: the Saudi element, the Israeli element and the British element. All three connect back to Poppy Bush and all played their part in the Iran-Contra affair.

That is very interesting. If I put my visor to maximum clarity on 9/11 I can make out several "elements" loosely or tightly coupled to nations, who acted suspiciously on 9/11 or on the coverup. The list may not be complete.

- First the American element, personified by Cheney in control, but also including parts of the US military who made sure the hijackings succeeded and CIA, who provided the visa for the 19 and shielded them from the FBI.
- Second the Israeli element, personified by the dancing Israelis and Netanjahu himself. The israeli art students, who lived very near the hijackers, may have provided surveillance.
- Third the Saudi element, personified by the people sending money to the hijackers and providing housing.
- Fourth the British Element, represented by Saeed Sheikh who wired money to Atta
- Fifth the Pakistani ISI Element in person of General Mahmud Ahmed
- There is also the Lebanese Anthrax connection leading to Fort Detrick and some very shady biotech companies and their lebanese owner

That is about all I can see right now. Surely there are some more,
The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".
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#19
Of interest perhaps, Peter Dale Scott confirmed on his Facebook account yesterday that the COG state of emergency that was invoked by the US on 9/11 and has been extended every year since then, has just been extended for another year by Trump.

Two things arise. Firstly, Congress have a duty to challenge this but don't. Secondly, why after 18 years is there a need for a continued state of emergency in the US? As Wiki makes clear, states of emergency can be used by government to suspend rights and freedoms guaranteed under a nation constitution or law.

So much for the normal democratic ideal.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#20
They should make a twitter poll in the US and ask the people, if they feel that they are living in a state of emergency, like in a disaster or other grave danger.
If they say no, as most likely the majority will do, tell them that the president and congress think so, or at least say so.

Ask them, just as an assurance, to twitter their congressperson that everything is ok at their place.
Hashtag: #NOEMERGENCYHERE



Really, do that.
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