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Ted Kennedy Dead - Taking Many Secrets To Grave With Him.
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Pix of Teddy's 1964 plane crash


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#12
The plane crash you refer to was in summer 1964, if I remember. The two others in the plane were killed; Ted almost was, and survived with neck injuries, which plagued him all his life. To me, it is clear before Dallas they had in mind to kill the whole family. Smith also goes into the death of MM, which he feels was the first 'assassination' attempt on JFK and RFK - the Power Group killed her and tried to make it look as if one of the lovers [JFK and RFK] did to 'sexually assassinate' them - but it didn't work. They were all marked me from JFK's election and that grew and grew with JFK's [and later RFK's] transformation toward more progressive - less favorable to those who killed him. IMO even the children and nephews now are at risk if they challenge the PTB with that last name.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#13
There is a story, told to me by a very credible source, that Tom Wilson was given permission by Ted Kennedy, personally, to be allowed to see the JFK autopsy film-negatives at NARA [under control of the family] - not publicly available. This has not been 'pinned' down yet. Amazing how many deep political events and incidents are difficult to even confirm - or to approach those who could say yes or no. I know more on this, but choose not to put it on the internet, as the enemies [of truth] are watching. Working on this, currently. If true, Ted went further, on a few occassions, to identify the truth about his older brother's assassins than most suspect......
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#14
Peter Lemkin Wrote:There is a story, told to me by a very credible source, that Tom Wilson was given permission by Ted Kennedy, personally, to be allowed to see the JFK autopsy film-negatives at NARA [under control of the family] - not publicly available. This has not been 'pinned' down yet. Amazing how many deep political events and incidents are difficult to even confirm - or to approach those who could say yes or no. I know more on this, but choose not to put it on the internet, as the enemies [of truth] are watching. Working on this, currently. If true, Ted went further, on a few occassions, to identify the truth about his older brother's assassins than most suspect......

Peter: This does not surprise me. Will look forward to hearing more. What he must have gone through when they killed JFk Jr...I am rerally shocked that no one has even written a book on JFK Jr's murder. There is a ton of information online...Maybe our friend Joan Mellen can take a look and find a way to fit it into her book on Texas...Someone certainly needs to do it. I will ask around at the COPA conf. in Novemeber and see if anyone has given it any thought. Many of the first hand sources would be hard to track down today however. Like the tv announcer who saw an explosion over Martha's Vineyard that night, then he "left that job", later was said to have not ever worked there... I spend the entire weekend one July 4th reading about this murder online..seemed like the most patriotic thing to do.
Dawn
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#15
Peter Lemkin Wrote:The plane crash you refer to was in summer 1964, if I remember. The two others in the plane were killed; Ted almost was, and survived with neck injuries, which plagued him all his life. To me, it is clear before Dallas they had in mind to kill the whole family. Smith also goes into the death of MM, which he feels was the first 'assassination' attempt on JFK and RFK - the Power Group killed her and tried to make it look as if one of the lovers [JFK and RFK] did to 'sexually assassinate' them - but it didn't work. They were all marked me from JFK's election and that grew and grew with JFK's [and later RFK's] transformation toward more progressive - less favorable to those who killed him. IMO even the children and nephews now are at risk if they challenge the PTB with that last name.

Yes! I forgot about that Peter. In fact I think Smith's account of the Monroe murder is one of the strengths of his book. That unsuccessful frame predates the successful Chappaquiddick "bear trap" frame.
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Dawn Meredith Wrote:Peter: This does not surprise me. Will look forward to hearing more. What he must have gone through when they killed JFk Jr...I am rerally shocked that no one has even written a book on JFK Jr's murder. There is a ton of information online...Maybe our friend Joan Mellen can take a look and find a way to fit it into her book on Texas...Someone certainly needs to do it. I will ask around at the COPA conf. in Novemeber and see if anyone has given it any thought. Many of the first hand sources would be hard to track down today however. Like the tv announcer who saw an explosion over Martha's Vineyard that night, then he "left that job", later was said to have not ever worked there... I spend the entire weekend one July 4th reading about this murder online..seemed like the most patriotic thing to do.
Dawn

Absolutely Dawn. The murder of JFK Jr. WAS another political assassination. He was the biggest threat to the "power control group" (god I'd like to come up with a better name for that klan). He was the Prince Charming of Camelot. He had it all; there would have been no stopping him politically, and he was reportedly determined to get to the bottom of his father's murder. Like so many he seems to have underestimated the breadth and depth of the evil he confronted.
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Myra Bronstein Wrote:
Dawn Meredith Wrote:Peter: This does not surprise me. Will look forward to hearing more. What he must have gone through when they killed JFk Jr...I am rerally shocked that no one has even written a book on JFK Jr's murder. There is a ton of information online...Maybe our friend Joan Mellen can take a look and find a way to fit it into her book on Texas...Someone certainly needs to do it. I will ask around at the COPA conf. in Novemeber and see if anyone has given it any thought. Many of the first hand sources would be hard to track down today however. Like the tv announcer who saw an explosion over Martha's Vineyard that night, then he "left that job", later was said to have not ever worked there... I spend the entire weekend one July 4th reading about this murder online..seemed like the most patriotic thing to do.
Dawn

Absolutely Dawn. The murder of JFK Jr. WAS another political assassination. He was the biggest threat to the "power control group" (god I'd like to come up with a better name for that klan). He was the Prince Charming of Camelot. He had it all; there would have been no stopping him politically, and he was reportedly determined to get to the bottom of his father's murder. Like so many he seems to have underestimated the breadth and depth of the evil he confronted.

Quote:Like so many Americans he seems to have underestimated the breadth and depth of the evil we confront.

Remember too there was a prediction before the fact of JFK loosing the child Jackie was carrying....it seems they were even involved in infanticide of the Kennedys. It has really been a sick attack - not just on a family - but on all of us! Those my age - or any - look at how America is/looks/feels today compared to when you were first old enough to evaluate it. I think we can all agree it went from bad to much, MUCH worse. Those who killed the Kennedys, generally, were IMO responsible for this decline (which seems to be picking-up speed and headed for the abyss!).
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#18
All of the living former Presidents EXCEPT GHW Bush will go to Teddy's Funeral Service - telling, IMO, as he participated in the deaths and dirty tricks done to so many others in the Kennedy family.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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#19
Was he not invited?
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx

"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.

“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
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#20
Magda Hassan Wrote:Was he not invited?

He was invited and it was assumed until today he [as with all the living former Presidents] would be there - when he suddenly said his son 'W' would represent him there. It is really quite an insult. In death, it is expected that Party and politics among the leading politicians is just 'dropped'. Many prominent Republicans will be there. I think it is his conscience. I hope W gets booed at the event, frankly.
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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