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Who was Gunther Russbacher?
#1
Gunther Russbacher's early biography, allegedly in his own words:

Quote:I was born the first of July, 1942 in Salzburg, Austria. On my birth certificate, I am, Gunther Karl, Baron von Russbach, Count von Esterhazy. On my father's side I am descended from the Baron who captured Richard the Lionhearted and held him for ransom. On my mother's side I am descended from Hungarian royalty. The Esterhaszy's had been advisors to the Emperors of Austria for generations. The marriage between my mother and father had been arranged to cement family interests.

My Godfather was Ernst Kaltenbrunner, the head of Austrian Intelligence during WWII. Records of this are kept in the family church in Salzburg. My family was part of the Gehlen group which was also called the Canaris group.

I began learning the simple aspect of the craft when I was old enough to follow orders. After the war, several Austrian families had to leave Austria in order to avoid prosecution. Most of these families had belonged to the Gehlen/Canaris group.

Eighteen members of my family were forced into exile. Moving to the United States, not speaking any English, I had to learn to be one hundred per cent American within two years. A man I had known as a child in Austria appeared and took me under his wing. At that time I had a heavy German accent and the children in Oklahoma were very cruel. This man taught me how to lose the accent and speak just like an American. He had also lost his accent. This man became my new Godfather. He became responsible for my training.

I took great interest in math, science, government and survival training, both in Oklahoma and in Nevada. Instruction in school, at home, in the mountains, and in desert areas were a must. I learned to fly at an early age, as a matter of fact, at an age before I had a driver's license. Records of this endeavor can be found at Catlin Aviation, Will Rogers Airport in Oklahoma City, as well as the downtown air park in Oklahoma City.

I managed to put a business together at the age of fifteen. It was called the Triple A employment agency; the All American Agency.

In 1961 I entered the United States Army at Ft. Carson, Colorado. After successfully completing basic training, I was transferred to North American air defense command where I continued my schooling and was granted all types of security clearances. I earned cryptographic credentials. I was advised to go through an immediate OCS program. I met with intelligence officers frequently at Ft. Carson, at Norad and at Ent Air Force Base as well as in Denver, Colorado at their station headquarters.

In 1963 I took a discharge from the military and was buried as far as government records were concerned. In 1963 I began to work with people from the federal building in Oklahoma City, and was quickly granted the right to go to the NASA school in Pasadena, Texas. From there I was diverted, moved around, taught languages at the military language schools, taught photo intelligence evaluation, and aircraft thrust evaluation. I was also taught thrust dissipation and thrust design.

Above is an excerpt from a fuller biography here:http://educate-yourself.org/cn/guntherru...ug05.shtml

If true, this means that alleged ONI operative Gunther Russbacher was of Gehlen and Gladio stock.

Thoughts?
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."

Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
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#2
Jan, I think we can safely say that Gunther was falsely elevating his high birth. I had his Esterhazy name checked out by a well known authority on noble houses and there is no such title.

That being the case I also doubt thr Ernst Kaltenbrunner claim.

It's rather like Spiritualists who always claim to be channeling for famous Red Indians, Chinese sea Captains and other wise men and women....

But he was CIA as you know and got up to all sorts of stuff. I asked Chip Tatum if he knew him. He did. They were from the same kennel, I think.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#3
David, I am not so sure.
His mother could have been
+ 12.02.2006 ESTERHÁZY Maria Elisabeth Alexandra Paula Ilona (1905) (http://www.martinus.at/dompfarre/matriken/matriken06.htm)
as claimed in http://www.gnn.tv/threads/7494/THE_NAZIS_THE_ZIONISTS_THE_CIA_AND_THE_KNIGHTS_TEMPLAR_EXPLAINED

I agree that many aspects of the story sound hard to believe, but that does not mean that they are completely false.

By the way, what is the general opinion on Rayelan?

Carsten
The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".
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#4
Carsten, it's been a long time since I checked the Esterhazy side of the family out, but the "Baron von Russbach, Count von Esterhazy" has never existed.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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#5
I found the following book:
Criminal Polit Buros and Other Plagues

Von Gyeorgos C. Hatonn

It is on books.google.de.

This seems to be coming from this source: http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/


The name Gyeorgos C. Hatonn googles a lot of stuff.

I will be going into that with my own pace. Others be aware, that your sanity is more important than saving the planet right now.

And yes, I have come across the Phoenix Journals before. And other things.

In the above mentioned book, many references are made to Russbacher and his descent, which I find most fascinating. I did not check the facts yet, but I also did not see any glaring nonsense.

Carsten
The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".
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IS THIS THE SAME MAN B.. www.rumormillnews.com/HARRY_MARTIN_OCTOBER_SU...
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#7
Bernice,

it could well be.
Fascinating info corroborating the SR-71 statement. And giving pointers to more possible eyewitnesses. Still alive?

Carsten
The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".
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Bernice Moore Wrote:IS THIS THE SAME MAN B.. www.rumormillnews.com/HARRY_MARTIN_OCTOBER_SU...

ADMIRAL Gunther Russbacher. :hahaha:
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
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