"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
Peter. MY FRIEND. You have finally crossed over the mental threshold, into decay. I'm sorry to say. You've had so much talent. And you have wasted so much talent. Why did you let this happen to yourself? I always thought you were much more than that. I believe you need professional help. I mean that in the most compassionate, and understanding way. Please believe me. And please forgive me.
Being you feel you can predict the fall of this nation, and the reasons thereof; let me predict one for you. I predict we will be reading about you. But not in the manner I would hope but, much like the Timothy Mc Vague's, the Austin FBI attack of recent, the twin towers, of old, the bombs of the IRA. and a host of other extremist acts which has destroyed so many lives. Why have you let your overwhelming hatred build to a point to where you must "self destruct", yourself, as well as others. Some, if not most, still have faith in their fellow man and in their country. I am one of them.
If you feel that you have been wronged and the boggy man has taken over, then why don't you take your God given talents and do something besides, fault find, bitch, and spread poisons from your pen. I love you brother, but I do not love your methods and procedures and the way you too try to destroy the very fiber of this Nation.
This Nation, the United States, is not gone, nor lost, nor will die. There is no doubt we have a multitude of problems, like arrows falling on the Spartans. But even though we as individuals die, our Spirit lives on and our Constitution will flourish. It has in the past, and will in the future.., without you.., and without me. We have been here before and we overcame. We will achieve victory. But God knows, it will not be easy. So let me in Peace fight this battle with the Grace of God. Let me struggle in my own way. Let me fight my own battles. Let me receive the armor to combat the enemy and not give in. I know where my enemy lies. I know where he sleeps. And too, I know how to defeat him. So let me development my own war-plan. Let me go into my own Lions Den. Let me ride upon hot fierce winds cloaked in the banner of truth and not in the cold cold banner of hatred. For I know that is the only way to win this battle. A battle and a call to arms of which you have laid before me.
You take care my friend and look inside yourself for your answers Tosh Plumlee
The character played by Mel Gibson in Conspiracy Theory (1997) and that played by Will Smith in Enemy of the State (1998) are arresting for the truths they glimpse of which the ordinary populace are ignorant.
Certain realities exist below the feelies and soma holidays of the brave new world, yet we must remember that those whom the gods wish to destroy they will first make mad.
When I first read Lifton, I told our friend with service in military intelligence how it was outrageous that Liebeler so obstructed justice.
The reply gave me an eyeopening introduction to all the seeming Matrix-like existence where there is no descriptive "wet" for the fish swimming in it:
"We know the Liebelers. We had dinner with them. They're very nice people." This from one who described Kennedy as "very dangerous."
Plausible denial was written into statute shortly after the Truman-era creation of the C.I.A. in 1947.
Robert Wilcox posits that Patton was intentionally killed, partly for the latter's dangerous knowledge of some 25,000 Allied POWs sacrificed to the Soviets on some altar of realpolitik chicanery.
I would suggest that today is not the first appearance of masters of evil illusion and manipulation, that Sun Tsu was advising warlords on the practice over two millenia ago.
We have been in that Twilight Zone postulated by Huxley and Orwell-Blair, and must find our way through its deadly labyrinth.
For the religious, there is no ultimate earthly victory over evil. And as John Kennedy advised us, on Earth God's work must truly be our own.
For the nonreligious, the battle may be ethical (too philosophical?) or populist (e.g., Long March), yet that end may be a Great Firewall of China barring access to freedom.
We are not a spark of life in the universe to be some hive's worker.
Even the philosopher allowed that we are a thinking reed.
Madness may be a means of escape, but the work remains.
I hope you do publish all your research Peter. Too many secrets for too long. Too much of a burden to you. The truth will set you free. I know there have been promises to keep but you've also had so much trouble with the hard discs and just trouble period. I also suspect that others have other parts of this puzzle. I hope they also choose to let it go public.
Tosh, I don't think Peter is going to pull a Timothy McVeigh or any such thing. Stressed he is, for sure, and who wouldn't be in his shoes? I see you and Peter fighting for the same thing in your different ways. :ridinghorse:
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." Karl Marx
"He would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies. When asked in court whether she knew that Lord Astor had denied having sex with her.
“I think it would be a good idea” Ghandi, when asked about Western Civilisation.
I find it very odd that you- Tosh- would post that you believe Peter will pull a "terrorist" act. Peter is very stressed but he is not at all violent.
If I did not know you better I would in fact say that this sounds almost like some kind of threat. But this is because I believe, like Peter, that the people who pull these "stunts" are used, for false flag reasons. In fact I pretty much share Peter's views of what this nation has become.
Those of us who study this dark world of deep political events have watched the erosion of all civil liberties, the sanctioning of torture, illegal and immoral wars, the spying on anyone and everyone. How can anyone think things are just fine?
Peter, I wish I had some advice for you, to tell you to whom you can trust with whatever secrets you still hold. But I sure would not advise dropping them at the other forum. It is rat infested and they will tear you limb to limb. Why do you even bother with the place? I agree with Tosh that you should put your time and talent elsewhere. Let Andy have his little nest of infiltrators. You can't win or gain a thing trying to fight in so fixed a battle.
I'm looking for a kind soul to post here the picture Peter posted on the EF.
Since I was unceremoniously tossed off that forum without warning, notice or reason -- and made into a resident un-person - the only one there btw - so that all my posts there read "guest" -- it means that I cannot see the picture, download it, or otherwise access it. But no complaints from me on that. I'm very happy not to go there unless specifically directed otherwise and when I looked at the Peter's new thread (it was the first visit in over a year) I realize how right I am not to bother with the place. It's an ugly and unpleasant bandwidth.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
02-03-2010, 06:11 PM (This post was last modified: 02-03-2010, 06:14 PM by Charles Drago.)
Here is the photo posted by Peter.
To this untrained observer, the head is disproportionate to the body. Were I to venture a guess, I'd say this is a not-so-clever hoax perpetrated not BY Peter, but ON him.
But again, that's just a guess. I bring to this "analysis" not a scintilla of relevant technical expertise.
Thanks Charlie. I'm the last person who can comment on the picture -- Timothy Tim Nice-But-Dim is me. I just wanted to see it so I could follow the discussion.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
02-03-2010, 06:36 PM (This post was last modified: 02-03-2010, 09:28 PM by Peter Lemkin.)
Charles Drago Wrote:Here is the photo posted by Peter.
To this untrained observer, the head is disproportionate to the body. Were I to venture a guess, I'd say this is a not-so-clever hoax perpetrated not BY Peter, but ON him.
But again, that's just a guess. I bring to this "analysis" not a scintilla of relevant technical expertise.
Jack White nor I think the head is disproportionate. A trusted source gave me this. It is the original from which the fakes with the pasted-on LHO head..but this chin is the chin seen on LHO's head [that is not LHO's chin, but is this man's]. I know who this person is behind the glasses. I don't think it is a trick played upon me...but you can think what you will. I am constrained in saying more. I wasn't even supposed to show this and may have lost my source. I hope not. Been in strange moods lately having lost job and it being a depression and soon to be out of money and not likely to even be around come summer...so wanted to 'take care of business', just in case.....
The EF is an absolute slimepit - the hate shown of late is incredible indeed. I regret posting it, but once out of the internet bottle, the genie can not be put back in......
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
