Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Pentagon Papers
#1
The Most Dangerous Man in America: Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers. Has anyone seen this documentary? It received an Oscar nomination last night.



Some researchers believe that JFK's assassination is linked to the Vietnam war, does anyone know if the Pentagon Papers discusses JFK's intentions regarding Vietnam?



John Kowalski
Reply
#2
John Kowalski Wrote:The Most Dangerous Man in America: Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers. Has anyone seen this documentary? It received an Oscar nomination last night.

Some researchers believe that JFK's assassination is linked to the Vietnam war, does anyone know if the Pentagon Papers discusses JFK's intentions regarding Vietnam?

John Kowalski

John,

The finest thing I've seen on the PP is Peter Dale Scott's dissenting essay in the Chomsky edited (?) collection of same which came with, I hope I'm right in saying, the Gravel edition (vol 5, again from memory). It makes an overwhelming case for the entire project being a CIA whitewash of its role in facilitating the US invasion of Vietnam. If you read nothing else on the subject, read this, it's a tour de force.

Paul
Reply
#3
http://www.peterdalescott.net/B-IV.html

Amplified excerpts from the 1976 recension (B.5a) of my 1971 essay "Vietnamization and the Drama of the Pentagon Papers" (C.14).

http://www.history-matters.com/essays/vi...am1971.htm
Reply
#4
Phil Dragoo Wrote:http://www.peterdalescott.net/B-IV.html

Amplified excerpts from the 1976 recension (B.5a) of my 1971 essay "Vietnamization and the Drama of the Pentagon Papers" (C.14).

http://www.history-matters.com/essays/vi...am1971.htm

Happy is the website where you can rely on one or more of its readers to provide such links on cue. Thanks, Phil.
Reply
#5
It seemed very curious to me, too...and funny. Still does:

http://www.maebrussell.com/Articles%20an...apers.html

Quote:An excerpt from the book Heartland by Mort Sahl

Harcourt, Brace, Jovonich, 1976 - hard cover, 1st edition

from pages 106 - 108


It seemed very curious to me. It seemed to me that they were doing what most people were doing. It never is free speech. Abbie Hoffman doesn't open schools to speak in: he writes four-letter words on the wall, he lights up joints of marijuana, and his speaking engagements cancel the entire program for the semester. It was almost as if that were his job.

Let's look at some others. Angela Davis. Angela Davis is a brilliant Ph.D., a very attractive woman, and she chooses to express her anger with the system by joining the Communist Party, which is made up of 850 eighty-six-year-old Jewish people in the Lower East Side of New York and about a thousand FBI agents. Why would she choose such an outmoded form? There's always a trial, a lot of noise, and always there's an acquittal, you'll notice. None of them is ever punished. Then she goes on a speaking tour where the action is--Bulgaria.

Stokely Carmichael couldn't wait to tear the system down; then he was suddenly silent. The man who arrested Dr. Spock and the Reverend William Sloan Coffin, Ramsey Clark, went to Hanoi and suddenly became an outspoken dissident. Daniel Ellsberg, who worked at the Rand Corporation, a CIA-funded group, was in and out of the Marine Corps for thirteen years and suddenly arrived and said he's been redeemed and accused the Army of ruling the country. The Army. Not the CIA. The Army. Who does the CIA speak for? The American financial establishment. And where did Ellsberg speak? He spoke in the New York Times, which is more of a financial tribunal than the Wall Street Journal, if the truth were known, or if the papers were read from cover to cover. Ellsberg was immediately accepted by the liberals, who don't ever ask for credentials. The left is lovely: You say to them, "I'm turning you in," and they say, "Will you ride to the station with me?"

Ellsberg was immediately accepted because the liberals were starved for heroes, obviously. He went on to discredit the Army, and the concert goes on in the Times, an orchestrated scenario. Officers' enlistments are down; the soldiers smoke dope; officers are being fragged by their subordinates. A discreditation of the Army. At the same time, coincidentally, General Abrams caught the Green Berets working for the CIA, killing a double agent and dropping his body in a mail sack in a river in Vietnam, and he said, I don't want any SS in my Army; at which time the CIA said, we're going to drop a real octopus on you, which was My Lai.

When the Warren Report was printed in the New York Times, it was printed in one day and buried. The "Pentagon Papers" were printed piecemeal, day by day, as the group that printed it waited to be stopped by the government. Wasn't it the lawyer for the New York Times who said in the Supreme Court hearing, "Why don't you define espionage for us so we don't violate the tenets and make it more restrictive?" And Justice Douglas replied by saying, "I find this a very odd argument for a defense counsel." Defense counsel being Alexander Bikel, who wrote in Commentary, an influential Jewish monthly, that anybody who didn't accept the Warren Commission must have corrupt reasons.
"There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

Joseph Fouche
Reply


Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  The Skorzeny Papers by Michael LeFlem Jim DiEugenio 4 5,918 22-10-2018, 03:21 AM
Last Post: Jim DiEugenio
  JFK redux: RT on the presidency vs. the Pentagon/CIA Richard Coleman 1 3,179 18-11-2015, 07:51 AM
Last Post: Paul Rigby
  Bill Clinton papers and the Kennedy assassination Joseph McBride 3 3,722 08-06-2014, 05:05 AM
Last Post: Magda Hassan
  Robert F. Kennedy Papers Adele Edisen 1 2,786 06-08-2012, 08:31 AM
Last Post: Peter Lemkin
  JFK and the Majestic Papers Jim DiEugenio 15 11,274 04-10-2011, 10:27 AM
Last Post: Seamus Coogan
  The Sir Robert Bond Papers: JFK's speech on religion and politics Bernice Moore 0 2,908 29-08-2011, 04:32 AM
Last Post: Bernice Moore
  CIA and National Archives withheld Allen Dulles papers on JFK assassination Ed Jewett 1 3,194 15-07-2011, 03:25 AM
Last Post: Ed Jewett
  Garrison papers at National Archives. Magda Hassan 0 3,707 06-07-2011, 01:37 PM
Last Post: Magda Hassan

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)