Posts: 9,353
Threads: 1,466
Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts
Likes Given: 0
Joined: Sep 2008
More than interesting, when one considers that former SS and nazis were often chosen to the "elect" and entered into those cadres.
The US certainly had a take on what a "citizen" should be in the new Europe didn't it. Not a communist, obviously, but not a democrat either.
They had to be right-wing.
And so were are where we are today.
Nice.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
Posts: 2,221
Threads: 334
Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts
Likes Given: 0
Joined: Oct 2008
Quote:or the government ceases to evidence a determination to oppose communist internal or external threats.''
Is this not the same ideal that led to the killing of JFK?If so,this would leave me with the impression that JFK was hit by these "stay behinds",and this does not need to be a US version of such.
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.â€
Buckminster Fuller
Posts: 9,353
Threads: 1,466
Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts
Likes Given: 0
Joined: Sep 2008
04-01-2011, 08:16 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-01-2011, 08:46 PM by David Guyatt.)
apologies - a duplicate post.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14
Posts: 6,184
Threads: 242
Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts
Likes Given: 0
Joined: Sep 2008
Keith Millea Wrote:Is this not the same ideal that led to the killing of JFK?If so,this would leave me with the impression that JFK was hit by these "stay behinds",and this does not need to be a US version of such.
Keith - take a look at potential links between Permindex and Gladio, eg in posts #17 & #28 in this thread:
http://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/show...abal/page2
There are also suggestions that the OAS attempted hit on DeGaulle was a Gladio operation, see here:
http://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/show...NATO-Fold&
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
Posts: 16,111
Threads: 1,773
Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts
Likes Given: 0
Joined: Sep 2008
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:David - the SHAPE symbolism is certainly intriguing.
See also the claim that NATO REQUIRED any country joining the organization to have set up the mechanisms for "clandestine citizen cadres" or, perhaps more accurately, Gladio stay behind cells with access to arms.
The piece is from a February 1996 Covert Action article. Unfortunately, the footnotes are missing.
http://www.mega.nu/ampp/gladio.html
Bingo!!!
Great find!!!! Please someone write to the CAIB website and get the footnotes! I'm Sure Lou Wolf would gladly provide them!
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass