An "unthinkable" proposition for your consideration

[Jack White]

RESOLVED: Even if JFK had behaved himself and played ball with the Unthinkable, he would have been hit anyway.

The last thing 1963 "powers to be" wanted? An informed populace (which Kennedy was more than competent in delivering) AND detente with the USSR -- so yes, of course he would of been "hit"..... in reality, his demise became the precedent for future thinkers/doers not to mention high, duly elected officials....

But David....you are depicting a JFK NOT playing ball with TPTB.

Charles asks the opposite. If JFK had played ball FROM THE BEGINNING,
he would have been a perfect FRONT MAN for TPTB. Why eliminate a
perfect stooge?

Jack

[Dawn Meredith]

RESOLVED: Even if JFK had behaved himself and played ball with the Unthinkable, he would have been hit anyway.

The last thing 1963 "powers to be" wanted? An informed populace (which Kennedy was more than competent in delivering) AND detente with the USSR -- so yes, of course he would of been "hit"..... in reality, his demise became the precedent for future thinkers/doers not to mention high, duly elected officials....

But David....you are depicting a JFK NOT playing ball with TPTB.

Charles asks the opposite. If JFK had played ball FROM THE BEGINNING,
he would have been a perfect FRONT MAN for TPTB. Why eliminate a
perfect stooge?
Jack

I totally agree. Kill him because he was young? This thread makes no sense to me.
If there was no reason to kill JFK, if he went along with the entire Bay of Pigs plan, did not reek havok later with the CIA, firing Dulles and Cabell, put troops into Nam, no detente with Cuba and Russian, etc. etc, he would not have been killed. Get rid of the reasons and you eliminate the need for the assassination. That is how I see it.
Dawn

[Charles Drago]

RESOLVED: Even if JFK had behaved himself and played ball with the Unthinkable, he would have been hit anyway.

The last thing 1963 "powers to be" wanted? An informed populace (which Kennedy was more than competent in delivering) AND detente with the USSR -- so yes, of course he would of been "hit"..... in reality, his demise became the precedent for future thinkers/doers not to mention high, duly elected officials....

But David....you are depicting a JFK NOT playing ball with TPTB.

Charles asks the opposite. If JFK had played ball FROM THE BEGINNING,
he would have been a perfect FRONT MAN for TPTB. Why eliminate a
perfect stooge?

Jack

Right on, Jack.

[Dawn Meredith]

OK CD is the point of this exercise to prove that JFK was murdered because he crossed the powers that be? All of them.

Because your point was that he'd be killed anyway.

Is everyone else finding this as confusing as I do. Well not confusing but contradictory.

Dawn

[Charles Drago]

Dawn ...

Does it have anything to do with:

"Were the creation and assassination of an Arthurian president essential components in a larger plan to support continued physical and metaphysical dominance?"

Creating chaos and the need for authority? Building the dream only to have it vanish? Sowing confusion and mistrust with the intention of creating a more fragmented, powerlessness consciousness in the culture of man?

All part of the grand theater of the sixties?

Your thoughts, please.

[Dawn Meredith]

Dawn ...

Does it have anything to do with:

"Were the creation and assassination of an Arthurian president essential components in a larger plan to support continued physical and metaphysical dominance?"

Creating chaos and the need for authority? Building the dream only to have it vanish? Sowing confusion and mistrust with the intention of creating a more fragmented, powerlessness consciousness in the culture of man?

All part of the grand theater of the sixties?

Your thoughts, please.

I have stated my thoughts. If JFK was palying the game the way other presidents had and have since there would have been no reason TO kill him.

Because he did not join secret societies was not a reason to believe he would not go along with the true powers that be. Or perhaps it did give them an inkling. But nothing more. No reason to plot a coup.

The quote above is interesting. But meaningless to me in terms of who killed JFK and why.

It was because he stood up to EVERY SINGLE one of them that he was taken out. And done so in front of the world, for cameras and videos to capture. They could have had him have a heart attack. Or cancer. But this was a warning to anyone future president. Cross us and you will be killed. Family who attempt to really investigate your murder will likewise be killed. Be it brother or son. Here it was was both. Lots has been written about re the notion of balaming the victim in the JFK assassination. In the murder of JFK Jr. this is the MOST blatant.

Dawn

[John Kowalski]

It would depend on your view of the assassination. If you view Kennedy's assassination as a statement to other powerful coalitions located either within the US or abroad, perhaps as part of a larger movement being orchestrated by these coalitions, that either the coalition is now in charge, or as signal (we did are part we disposed of Kennedy, now you do your part and remove Khrushchev) then the reason for killing him is moot. Whether Kennedy supported the oil depletion allowance or not is not an issue, whether or not he wanted to pursue the cold war or not is not relevant because the reason for his execution was to make a statement or send a signal to another powerful coalition or coalitions.

If you view the assassination as a solely domestic plot initiated by a group of powerful US interests who came together only because they had grievances against Kennedy and who found a solution to their problems by executing him, then the president's agreement with them on major policy issues would have deterred them from removing him from office.

John

[Bernice Moore]

hi David; The actions on Elm Street, would keep every future President in line, i think that is also perhaps why the ss are shown the real zap film so it is said, to their agents, as well as other orgs. in training sessions on how to kill a President, to keep such as an ongoing present every day knowledge in the memory of those who serve in any capacity today as well as to all who are in political office,to not reach too far,as that capability still exists...to slaughter a President or anyone,at high noon in any usa city they might chose, and get away with it..b:darthvader:

[John Kowalski]

RESOLVED: Even if JFK had behaved himself and played ball with the Unthinkable, he would have been hit anyway.

Why? If he was doing his masters' bidding why would he have had to go in such a horrendous manner? Please be a bit more specific.

Dawn

I'll play my cards close to the vest for now. The point of this exercise as it is worded is to invite informed speculation.

Charles:

Can you show some some of your cards; why would you ask for informed speculation?

John

[Charles Drago]

Does it have anything to do with:

"Were the creation and assassination of an Arthurian president essential components in a larger plan to support continued physical and metaphysical dominance?"

Creating chaos and the need for authority? Building the dream only to have it vanish? Sowing confusion and mistrust with the intention of creating a more fragmented, powerlessness consciousness in the culture of man?

John,

Stan Wilbourne, in his quote above and in his choice of a "distinguished" third party's words, demonstrates that he sees most but not all of the cards I'm holding.

I'm grateful to you for bumping this thread. I'm asking for informed speculation so as to engage the right brain's creative processes among the distinguished thinkers and observers who frequent DPF and who are most commonly associated with left brain thinking.

More as we move down this road.

Charles