21-12-2008, 02:54 AM
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The BND has no juristriction outside Germany and they have also broken the laws of Germany and operated illegally domestically with their use of German telecom companies and their attempts to manipulate covertly and overtly the media. Documents to follow.
The head of the BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst), Germany's equivalent to the CIA, has threatened Wikileaks with "immediate criminal prosecution" if it does not remove all "files or reports related to the BND". The spy chief claims to have already engaged the BND's legal machinery.
Last month an international scandal broke out after three BND secret agents were arrested and deported from Kosovo after photographing a recently bombed building in Pristina. The agents were accused of being behind the attack and their note books and electronic files seized by the notoriously corrupt Kosovo government.
Ernst Uhrlau
The threats, made by BND President Ernst Uhrlau, were triggered by the Wikileaks publication of an article by Tom Burghardt, a US journalist, on the BND's bungled Kosovo operation, together with a classified BND dossier on senior Kosovo figures from 2005--both of which were specifically named by Mr. Uhrlau.
Wikileaks, an international organization, has a presence in many countries, including Germany (http://wikileaks.de/).
The BND, like the CIA, is forbidden by law to engage in domestic activities. Yet the threats, which were made in German as well as in English, hold no legal power outside of Germany. They must be assumed to be an attempt to engage Wikileaks via its German component--or does Mr. Uhrlau suggest it is now BND policy to kidnap foreign journalists and try them before German courts?
Clearly the BND has learned nothing from the 2006 "Schaefer report" of the Bundestag which condemned illegal BND attempts to influence the German press. Indeed, an unredacted portion of the Schaefer report, which refers to BND attempts to influence Germany's Focus magazine, is one of the "files or reports related to the BND" released by Wikileaks.
The BND has disgraced Germany by engaging in the same illegal domestic interference that it was condemned for a mere two years ago.
Mr. Uhrlau was appointed BND President in 2005.
The contempt shown to German constitution, the Bundestag and also to the press demands Mr. Uhrlau's immediate resignation.
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From: Sunshine Press Legal Office <wl-legal@sunshinepress.org>
To: leitungsstab@bnd.bund.de
Cc: Sunshine Press Legal Office <wl-legal@sunshinepress.org>,
~ wl-germany@sunshinepress.org
Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: WG: Classified report of the
Bundesnachrichtendienst
Dear Mr. Ernst Uhrlau,
Thanks you for this clarification.
Please inform us, under which statue or governing law you
claim that that publication of the document is a criminal offence:
a) in Germany
b) in Sweden
Thank you,
Jay lim
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From: leitungsstab@bnd.bund.de
To: Sunshine Press Legal Office <wl-legal@sunshinepress.org>
Subject: Antwort: Re: WG: Classified report of the Bundesnachrichtendienst
Dear Mr. Lim,
As of up today you still provide the option of downloading a classified
report
of the BND under the following address:
http://www.wikileaks.com/wiki/BND_kosovo...2_Feb_2005.
This file is attached to the article by Mr. Tom Burghardt by the name
"The End
of the Affair? The BND, CIA and Kosovo's Deep State".
We kindly ask you again to remove the file immediately and all other
files or
reports related to the BND as well. Otherwise we will press for immediate
criminal prosecution.
Yours sincerely,
Ernst Uhrlau
President of the Bundesnachrichtendienst
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From: Sunshine Press Legal Office <wl-legal@sunshinepress.org>
To: leitungsstab@bnd.bund.de
Cc: wl-office@sunshinepress.org, wl-press@sunshinepress.org,
~ wl-germany@sunshinepress.org
Subject: Re: WG: Classified report of the Bundesnachrichtendienst
Dear Mr. Uhrlau,
We have several BND-related reports. Could you be more precise?
Thank you.
Jay Lim.
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From: leitungsstab@bnd.bund.de
To: wl-office@sunshinepress.org
Cc: wl-press@sunshinepress.org
An: wikileaks@jabber.se
Von: leitungsstab IVBB-BND-BIZ/BIZDOM
Datum: 12/16/2008 01:13PM
Thema: Classified report of the Bundesnachrichtendienst
Dear Sir or Madam,
Your website provides the option of downloading a classified report of
the Bundesnachrichtendienst. I earnestly ask you to block this option
immediately. I have already called in my legal advisers to look at ways
of criminal prosecution.
Yours sincerely,
Ernst Uhrlau
President of the Bundesnachrichtendienst
The BND has no juristriction outside Germany and they have also broken the laws of Germany and operated illegally domestically with their use of German telecom companies and their attempts to manipulate covertly and overtly the media. Documents to follow.
The head of the BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst), Germany's equivalent to the CIA, has threatened Wikileaks with "immediate criminal prosecution" if it does not remove all "files or reports related to the BND". The spy chief claims to have already engaged the BND's legal machinery.
Last month an international scandal broke out after three BND secret agents were arrested and deported from Kosovo after photographing a recently bombed building in Pristina. The agents were accused of being behind the attack and their note books and electronic files seized by the notoriously corrupt Kosovo government.
Ernst Uhrlau
The threats, made by BND President Ernst Uhrlau, were triggered by the Wikileaks publication of an article by Tom Burghardt, a US journalist, on the BND's bungled Kosovo operation, together with a classified BND dossier on senior Kosovo figures from 2005--both of which were specifically named by Mr. Uhrlau.
Wikileaks, an international organization, has a presence in many countries, including Germany (http://wikileaks.de/).
The BND, like the CIA, is forbidden by law to engage in domestic activities. Yet the threats, which were made in German as well as in English, hold no legal power outside of Germany. They must be assumed to be an attempt to engage Wikileaks via its German component--or does Mr. Uhrlau suggest it is now BND policy to kidnap foreign journalists and try them before German courts?
Clearly the BND has learned nothing from the 2006 "Schaefer report" of the Bundestag which condemned illegal BND attempts to influence the German press. Indeed, an unredacted portion of the Schaefer report, which refers to BND attempts to influence Germany's Focus magazine, is one of the "files or reports related to the BND" released by Wikileaks.
The BND has disgraced Germany by engaging in the same illegal domestic interference that it was condemned for a mere two years ago.
Mr. Uhrlau was appointed BND President in 2005.
The contempt shown to German constitution, the Bundestag and also to the press demands Mr. Uhrlau's immediate resignation.
______________________________________________________________________
From: Sunshine Press Legal Office <wl-legal@sunshinepress.org>
To: leitungsstab@bnd.bund.de
Cc: Sunshine Press Legal Office <wl-legal@sunshinepress.org>,
~ wl-germany@sunshinepress.org
Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: WG: Classified report of the
Bundesnachrichtendienst
Dear Mr. Ernst Uhrlau,
Thanks you for this clarification.
Please inform us, under which statue or governing law you
claim that that publication of the document is a criminal offence:
a) in Germany
b) in Sweden
Thank you,
Jay lim
- -
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: leitungsstab@bnd.bund.de
To: Sunshine Press Legal Office <wl-legal@sunshinepress.org>
Subject: Antwort: Re: WG: Classified report of the Bundesnachrichtendienst
Dear Mr. Lim,
As of up today you still provide the option of downloading a classified
report
of the BND under the following address:
http://www.wikileaks.com/wiki/BND_kosovo...2_Feb_2005.
This file is attached to the article by Mr. Tom Burghardt by the name
"The End
of the Affair? The BND, CIA and Kosovo's Deep State".
We kindly ask you again to remove the file immediately and all other
files or
reports related to the BND as well. Otherwise we will press for immediate
criminal prosecution.
Yours sincerely,
Ernst Uhrlau
President of the Bundesnachrichtendienst
- -
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Sunshine Press Legal Office <wl-legal@sunshinepress.org>
To: leitungsstab@bnd.bund.de
Cc: wl-office@sunshinepress.org, wl-press@sunshinepress.org,
~ wl-germany@sunshinepress.org
Subject: Re: WG: Classified report of the Bundesnachrichtendienst
Dear Mr. Uhrlau,
We have several BND-related reports. Could you be more precise?
Thank you.
Jay Lim.
- -
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: leitungsstab@bnd.bund.de
To: wl-office@sunshinepress.org
Cc: wl-press@sunshinepress.org
An: wikileaks@jabber.se
Von: leitungsstab IVBB-BND-BIZ/BIZDOM
Datum: 12/16/2008 01:13PM
Thema: Classified report of the Bundesnachrichtendienst
Dear Sir or Madam,
Your website provides the option of downloading a classified report of
the Bundesnachrichtendienst. I earnestly ask you to block this option
immediately. I have already called in my legal advisers to look at ways
of criminal prosecution.
Yours sincerely,
Ernst Uhrlau
President of the Bundesnachrichtendienst
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