This Miami News article of Nov. 25 is bogus and is indicative of a CIA hand at work at an OP to convict Oswald.
Wade never said that Oswald carried "a large paper-wrapped parcel" and Wade never said that a neighbor was told by Oswald that the "package" (Wade's term) "contained rolled curtains, but actually was a gun."
What Wade actually said has been stated in previous posts on this thread.
Again, this is more clutching at straws via fudge production.
I tnink I'm finally getting the hang of this. Whatever your interpretation of and weighting of this information is, IS WHAT IT IS. If you decide an FBI agent has used wording that fits your beliefs, it
is rock solid, take it to the bank evidence. If the wording in an FBI report seems to undermine your beliefs, you point out it is sourced from the corrupt, malevolent FBI. A newspaper report is worded in
a way you object to, and.....it was planted by the CIA. Heads you win, tails I lose! This is fun......for you......
Rock solid, a game changer weight= a gazillion lbs.: (It is an inaccurate recollection, Yates was still making a pest and a spectacle of himself ten days later, but that must be beside the point?)
Quote:Yates had still not been discredited. But there was more to come. During his final, January 4 trip to the FBI office, Ralph Yates was accompanied by his wife, Dorothy. He had asked her to come with him. In an interview forty-two years later, she told me what happened next to her husband. After he completed his (inconclusive) lie-detector test, she said, the FBI told him he needed to go immediately to Woodlawn Hospital, the Dallas hospital for the mentally ill. He drove there with Dorothy. He was admitted that evening as a psychiatric patient. From that point on, he spent the remaining eleven years of his life as a patient in and out of mental health hospitals.[775]
Meaningless, weight= ZERO:
Quote: His uncle, J. O. Smith, who went with him on his first trip to the FBI office, said of his nephew's story, "I really thought that was all just imagination."[784]
It is an FBI report, it is not signed by Yates, but the wording in it is unique, and it fits the belief system. (J.O. Smith, isn't that the uncle quoted in 2006?) Rock solid, a game changer weight= a gazillion lbs.:
[URL="http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10406&search=yates_and+shades#relPageId=422&tab=page"]http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10406&search=yates_and+shades#relPageId=422&tab=page [/URL]
This is a page of an FBI report. It is counter to certain belief systems. FBI is corrup, untrustworthy, malevolent. Scully, why do you bother to post FBI reports? Are you an FBI defender? Meaningless, weight= ZERO: http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docI...d%20shades
Is it penetrating my thick skull? Scully, if we find it disagreeable, you are suspect for even posting it, don't you know the CIA and FBI planted fake reports and newspaper articles and
discredited witnesses they happened to just not kill, outright?
If we find it agreeable, as the unique "curtain rod" wording in FBI agent Ben S. Harrison's 27 November reporting of his 26 November Yates interview, it is heartily received, heavily
weighted, proclaimed as unimpeachable.
Pardon me, but there are no solid conclusions to be drawn in this instance because all Ralph Yates quotes are sourced from FBI reports and the 42 year old recollections of Yates's widow
and uncle conflict with each other. The resolute postures of those who post in this thread and maintain that they know what is definitive and what is not, are unreasonable.
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
This Miami News article of Nov. 25 is bogus and is indicative of a CIA hand at work at an OP to convict Oswald.
Wade never said that Oswald carried "a large paper-wrapped parcel" and Wade never said that a neighbor was told by Oswald that the "package" (Wade's term) "contained rolled curtains, but actually was a gun."
What Wade actually said has been stated in previous posts on this thread.
Again, this is more clutching at straws via fudge production.
I tnink I'm finally getting the hang of this. Whatever your interpretation of and weighting of this information is, IS WHAT IT IS. If you decide an FBI agent has used wording that fits your beliefs, it
is rock solid, take it to the bank evidence. If the wording in an FBI report seems to undermine your beliefs, you point out it is sourced from the corrupt, malevolent FBI. A newspaper report is worded in
a way you object to, and.....it was planted by the CIA. Heads you win, tails I lose! This is fun......for you......
Nonsense straw clutching.
Harrison's 27 November reporting of his 26 November Yates interview is the FIRST report made by the FBI regarding Yates. Therefore, this first report logically can be accepted as accurate because the need to suppress Yates' reporting was not immediately perceived and such suppression was not activated immediately. But suppression was soon after activated, especially when Hoover realized the danger. Subsequent FBI reporting is a hatchet job obviously ordered by Hoover.
The Miami News article of the 25th misquotes Wade. It puts words in Wade's mouth he did not utter. Furthermore, is someone saying that Yates read the Miami paper on the 25th? ::
No one has as yet found a Dallas newspaper article which stated Yates' reporting information to the FBI on the 26th.
I'm failing to see where Scully makes any attempt to answer anything in his responses. He seems to be a person who operates under the assumption that his overly general cut and paste overload of information responses are infallible and have proven the case merely by their posting.
As I showed in my previous post he fatally trusts the FBI in their reports and fails to understand the dishonest context of their entries. I'd ask him to read my last post about the polygraph.
Like David Josephs, I find it repugnant that he dismisses Dorothy Yates' witnessing so crudely without giving consideration to the fact this was one of the most traumatic experiences of her life, the memory of which would be burned in her mind and emotions. Or, of course, we could give credit to Scully who is much more removed from all this than Dorothy and wasn't there, who has an obvious denial agenda along with its uncredible methods. We can take Scully's dismissive word over Dorothy who was there.
In his story Yates said the hitch-hiker placed the long package in the bed of the truck because it was too big for the cabin. Evidence of a length Yates had no way to know from the excuses being made. Yates passed a lie detector test on this story.
Since July 24, there has been no response to this... is the lack of interest an indication of closed minds? You know what you know, but is there no inclination to know more?
Ralph Yates was born into circumstances that contributed immediately to a tough row for him to hoe. The first part of the poem (linked below) attributed to him as he was losing his grip (according to the official record, the only record of Ralph Yates's statements and behavior compiled and filed in near real time) is quite telling and in synch with his family history.
.....This baby is thought to be at risk for later psychological difficulties because of an inability to form an identity separate from the dead child. It is thought that parents who are unable to fully and completely mourn the death of their child may compromise a subsequent child's mental health by imbuing that child with the qualities and characteristics of the dead sibling and by continuing to mourn the earlier death......
Quote:............
I've studied the statements attributed to Yates and his wife in late 1963 through early 1964, and I've been able to verify every detail I picked from them that has turned into a researchable lead, including two in the poem attributed to Yates as he allegedly slipped into incoherence.
I probably know more details about Yates's mother, described by him as Bernice Gordon, than anyone who has researched this. His paternal grandmother died from cancer in 1959, as is attributed to Yates in the poem. Yates's mother was pregnant with Ralph eight months before he was born when his older brother died suddenly of unexplainable convulsions at the age of six months. Yates's paternal grandfather was recorded living in Evanston, IL in the 1940 US Census.......
Peter Janney's uncle was Frank Pace, chairman of General Dynamics who enlisted law partners Roswell Gilpatric and Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, in a trade of 16 percent of Gen. Dyn. stock in exchange for Henry Crown and his Material Service Corp. of Chicago, headed by Byfield's Sherman Hotel group's Pat Hoy. The Crown family and partner Conrad Hilton next benefitted from TFX, at the time, the most costly military contract award in the history of the world. Obama was sponsored by the Crowns and Pritzkers. So was Albert Jenner Peter Janney has preferred to write of an imaginary CIA assassination of his surrogate mother, Mary Meyer, but not a word about his Uncle Frank.
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