By the way... What Caused Colby's Canoe to flip in 1996?

[Nathaniel Heidenheimer]

This is my idea of small talk in bar.

I am just wondering whether people think that Colby's death was related to his alledged differences with Angleton and his friends? related to the Pheonix Program? Related to a sudden flood of coincidence in Maryland?

If the Angleton divergance was in fact a cause, what particular things were at the heart of the estrangement between these two :fight:

[Nathaniel Heidenheimer]

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[David Guyatt]

I heard various rumours that he was involved in a big bad black gold deal in Switzerland that went wrong, but I have never seen an iota of evidence to support this.

Closer to home perhaps, was the Franklin Cover-Up written by his mate John DeCamp?

But it remains more than interesting bar talk to my mind. Colby hated water. He was terrified by the thought of boats. What induced him to try to paddle a caneo then? This seemed to me at the time to be a punishment killing, filling him with dread terror prior to being forcibly drowned.

[Jan Klimkowski]

I heard various rumours that he was involved in a big bad black gold deal in Switzerland that went wrong, but I have never seen an iota of evidence to support this.

Closer to home perhaps, was the Franklin Cover-Up written by his mate John DeCamp?

But it remains more than interesting bar talk to my mind. Colby hated water. He was terrified by the thought of boats. What induced him to try to paddle a caneo then? This seemed to me at the time to be a punishment killing, filling him with dread terror prior to being forcibly drowned.

Yup. It's intriguing, isn't it. Colby was also legal counsel to spooky Phoenix Program bank Nugan Hand. After Frank Nugan was assassinated, Colby's business card was "found" on his body.

Found? Or placed?

David - very interesting observations about Colby's fear of water.

It does bear the hallmarks of a public execution perpetrated by one elite faction against another. Or, alternately, as punishment for disobeying the rules.

A slaughter charged with symbolism for those with eyes wide open.

Or Open Eyes....

[Peter Lemkin]

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/...00587.html

found, strange, no comment

[David Guyatt]

Interesting Peter, but I have grave reservations when this guy says only the FBI can arrange injections that mimic a heart attack. Any number of intell and security outfits - private and government - can do this.

If art truly mimics reality than the movie "Michael Clayton" has an excellent chilling, efficient and highly realistic assassination scene. Worth the watch just for that (whoops, off topic again).

[Nathaniel Heidenheimer]

Yes claims about unique FBI needlework would seem to be contradicted in numerous places. One would be on a thread on Another Forum by former Washington Post writer and later China historian Sterling Seagrave. He clearly stated his reasons for believing that former WaPost intelligence reporter Larry Stern was killed by a heart attack inducing drug administered paraprofessionally by the CIA.

In my research on Stern I discovered that he was the lead reporter for WaPost on the coverage of TFX scandal and that furthermore he held onto the story far longer thatn I had thought most journalists had: he was still writing sizeable articles on it in 1965.

He also wrote a very interesting article on RFK challenging the tax exempt status of AEI the think tank that today has four major tributaries called CBS, ABC etc. This think tank is of course the Primary Zendo in which the oil and weaponds industries subsidize their tailored and timely meditations that are later rebroadcast as the evening news. Ohhhhm.

Anyway interesting guy to have alledgedly got a PaceUnMaker.:questionmark:

[Peter Lemkin]

Of all the main 'agencies' FBI is the least adept at such things....though they have a few persons able to handle such. I'm currently reading the book on the murder of General Patton. Fascinating....while they tried to kill him in a mock accident, they finished him off in the hospital. Things change little and the level of evil, seemingly not at all... It is all too easy to kill by injection, additive to food or drink and done more often than many would think. Is our species really so venal?...it seems those in control are! It is really a very sad history I am a student of......gives me little to be proud of of my 'kind'.

[Magda Hassan]

Camp John DeCamp, a lawyer from Lincoln, Nebraska, and Colby's close friend and confidant, said Colby's death was not an accident. He stated that Colby was prepared to disclose that missing P.O.W.'s were working for a dope smuggling operation orchestrated by General Colin Powell, Pentagon official Richard Armitage, and George H. W. Bush.

And that the POWs were liquidated by the US to silence them from disclosing the drug connection.

As From The Wilderness will show, there is a high probability that Sarin gas was used not only against defectors, but also against unwilling prisoners of war whom the government had decided would be a major embarrassment if they came home alive.

This seems quite possible that this happened and the violent suicide of General Bobby Robinson, a US Army chemical warfare and sarin gas expert seems to add to that. Local police did not buy the army's suicide theory. He may have objected to his sarin being used on his boys instead of the Ruskies.

[David Guyatt]

Good find Magda.

Monika Jensen-Stevens wrote two books on the Vietname POWs, especially Kiss The Boys Goodbye which deals with this.